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Thaecia contains 252 nations, the 129th most in the world.
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The Most Stationary in Thaecia
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Nation | WA Category | Motto | ||
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1. | The Chair Kingdom of Cerdenia | Anarchy | “Chairs First, the Rest Second” | |
2. | The Incorporated States of European Technocratic Union | Corrupt Dictatorship | “The Mechwart is a *good* place.” | |
3. | The Dominion of South Mouse Island | Democratic Socialists | “Si vulpem agas, eius dolis cogita.” | |
4. | The Commonwealth of Skarlagen Treaties | New York Times Democracy | “That’s a Lotta Treaties” | |
5. | The Kingdom of Fredestatia | Left-Leaning College State | “Brave men go forward not expecting to return. ...” | |
6. | The Republic of Teaustron | Father Knows Best State | “By The People For The People” | |
7. | The Union of Kryssinia | Inoffensive Centrist Democracy | “Nåde og Frihet” | |
8. | The Superb Storage Servant of Thaecian Dep Admin | Inoffensive Centrist Democracy | “I am a police officer” | |
9. | The Lengthy Winding Treks of Taungu | Anarchy | “Spreadin' Dis-caw-rse!” | |
10. | The Rogue Nation of Xhuifrak | Inoffensive Centrist Democracy | “Oh we'd be so free” |
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Regional Happenings
- : The WA Delegate of Rayekka updated the World Factbook entry.
- : The Provincial Syndicates of Shrekistani arrived from Lazarus.
- : The Democratic States of Obalostan arrived from Osiris.
- : Kavkansk ceased to exist.
- : Soatia ceased to exist.
- : Northern redlandia ceased to exist.
- : The Democratic States of Experthady arrived from Lazarus.
- : The Kingdom of Brototh updated the World Factbook entry.
- : The Empire of Serbvakia arrived from Europeia.
- : Setarime ceased to exist.
Thaecia Regional Message Board
Record of debate regarding the first Order of business (via Discord):
Democratized Peoples
Undecided on the overall concept of entrenchment clauses. But if we were to do that I'd suggest something a little more concrete. Perhaps:
Section III - Any proposed amendment which impedes the right of the people to freely and openly choose their government or substantially undermines core judicial rights shall not be submitted to the people for ratification nor shall, if ratified by the people, it assume any force or effect.
Lythusia
It's always good to hear good advice. Thanks for the suggestion, I will change the proposal.
Brototh
I'm still not particularly sure about the proposal. For one, I think that entrenched clauses as an idea are not poor, but I do not agree that they should be absolute. I think that if there is anything going to be entrenched, it should only be raising the standard for amendment, not prohibiting it at all. I believe that making an amendment that restricts us, whether it be in a way that we consider good or bad, is not beneficial for the region's future. If in the future we want to do something that might contradict an entrenched clause- we might in the future have really good reason, we can't see the future- then it gridlocks the region. This is not a good way in my opinion to set up a long lasting government.
Additionally, it could just be circumvented by amending out the entrenched clause first, and then doing another amendment - sure, this would be a harder process, but why then not just raise the bar for amending the rights section?
Secondly, I believe that the proposal is simply too up to debate. There is not a better way to word it in my opinion. The issue comes in that there could be a multitude of interpretations on what core judicial rights are, or if the rights are being "substantially" undermined, or the same for the right to freely and openly choose government; it is not clear what this means. Additionally, it could lead to a potential future issue where the amendment is passed uncontroversially but months later is suddenly rescinded by a new Court that disagrees with it. In my opinion, this empowers the Court too much and gives them too much power to legislate from the bench based on their personal opinions.
For these reasons, at vote I cannot support the amendment. However, I would be more inclined to the passage of a clause that entrenches only the contents of Article II; this is more sensible in my opinion and makes less future issues.
Lythusia
I understand the related concerns, I modified the proposal:
Section III - Any proposed amendment which impedes the right of the people to freely and openly choose their government or substantially undermines core judicial rights expressed in the Article II of this Constitution shall not be submitted to the people for ratification nor shall, if ratified by the people, assume any force or effect.
This change would simply serve to protect constitutional guarantees from possible amendments that tend to abolish or limit these rights in an extreme way, amendments that serve to improve these rights would be permitted
It must be the duty of the Judiciary to make the Constitution understood; the Legislature legislates, the Executive implements, and the Judiciary judges and interprets. It is not the duty of the Constitution to interpret itself, it is simply to ensure that it can be interpreted, and this is explicit.
In any case, any form of legal specification is good, thanks for the suggestions and opinions. An experienced voice is key, thank you.
Taralania
Fellas, I do not see a need for there to be a provision within the constitution limiting the right of the legislature to do its job (legislating). Limiting amendments that "impedes the right of the people to freely and openly choose their government" is, frankly, pretty broad. I also cannot find a circumstance within Thaecian history where this has ever been done (limiting freedoms). I cannot find a practical use for this amendment, and do not think it should be supported by the members.
Brototh
I still fundamentally disagree with the notion that as Taralania has said the legislature is restricted from legislating. There is a serious problem in my opinion that this could be unnecessarily harming us in the future by banning constitutional amendments on a specific section. If there is any change, then it should be done in a fashion that makes it harder to amend a section, never impossible. We have seen in the past and even with this convention being held that sometimes even sections that seem to be the most obvious and necessary end up being flawed or need changing. As such, I don’t think that it’s sensible to prohibit amendments on any specific section.
The proposal should read:
Section III - Any proposed amendment to Article II of the Constitution shall require for passage a 3/4ths majority in each Chamber of Congress and the approval of the citizenry with a 2/3rds majority vote in a referendum.
In my opinion, this achieves the same desired effect of protecting rights while also leaving them up to change later if needed. It’s not possible to see the future. That being said, if some sort of “tyrant” acquired the approval of 3/4ths of Congress and 2/3rds of the general population, he probably wouldn’t be much of a tyrant in the first place, since any change to the rights of the people would be done with their overwhelming agreement.
This is regarding the Amendment as proposed by Lythusia
Section I - This Constitution is the supreme law of Thaecia, and any law or government action inconsistent with the provisions of this Constitution is, to the extent of the inconsistency, of no force and effect.
Section II - Amendments to this Constitution may only be passed with a 2/3rds majority in each Chamber of Congress and the approval of the citizenry with a 3/5ths majority vote in a referendum.
Section III - Any proposed amendment which impedes the right of the people to freely and openly choose their government or substantially undermines core judicial rights expressed in the Article II of this Constitution shall not be submitted to the people for ratification, nor shall, if ratified by the people, assume any force or effect.
The member-only vote for the above Amendment is currently underway.
Democratized Peoples - Abstain
The Ambis - Nay
Cosmosplosion - Nay
Snalland - Nay
Rayekka - Nay
New Central Iowa - DNV yet
Lythusia - DNV yet
Rayekka commented on his vote,
I voted Nay as I think the amendment will be too restricting. Amendments require 2/3rds to pass as it is, so I’m theory anything radical or that impedes rights shouldn’t get passed anyway unless it is the will of the people.
The vote will close in 12hrs, considering the majority against it is overwhelming. However, if current 'Nay' votes switch, I may keep it open for longer.
Here is the poll:
https://forms.gle/w6G3LdKnKC4EDUUE6
Here is the poll:
https://forms.gle/rcE9d4TZmaFHTszP8
It has been a year, but I have returned, say, did anyone screenshot my flag? I can't find my file for it.
Taralania, The Ambis, and Orang Moku
The Thaecian World Assembly Office recommends you vote AGAINST Airline Safety And Comfort Disclosures.
Find the reasoning here:
Voting Recommendation on: Airline Safety And Comfort Disclosures
Voting Recommendation: AGAINST
REASONING:
The Thaecian World Assembly Office recommends you vote AGAINST this resolution. This is because while the resolution has the best intentions at heart by being customer focused; this resolution is unrealistic and sets a mandate on non-WA nations. Firstly, the resolution would require flights from non-WA airports to WA nations to comply with this resolution. Secondly, the resolution requires the safety & comfort rating of every single flight to be available in physical form in every single language used within a WA state, which could be hundreds; this creates environmental concerns. Finally, there is concern this could harm the Airline business. Air travel is a vital means of transport, and these regulations could result in airlines going bust due to an increase in costs, or more likely lead to airplane tickets rising, bad for consumers.
Voting Recommendation on: Repeal: “Liberate Realm Of The Whispering Winds”
Voting Recommendation: FOR
REASONING:
The Thaecian World Assembly Office recommends you vote FOR this resolution. This is because the region currently cannot set border controls due to the liberation resolution. The region needs the border control powers to protect the historic region from pirates wanting to raid the sea-based roleplay region.
Want to know more about what the Thaecian World Assembly Office does? This section will tell you.
The Thaecian World Assembly Office is the Office responsible for all things World Assembly (WA) related. The Office represents the elected World Assembly Delegate (WAD) and the Vice Delegate (VD) when the WAD is not available.
The WADs key role is to vote on proposed resolutions in the General Assembly and Security Council. They vote on behalf of the Thaecian region as a whole. Their vote often sways how Thaecian World Assembly citizens vote.
While not required, it is precedent that for each vote the WAD will ask for opinions from Thaecians on a resolution in the Thaecian Regional Message Board (RMB) and/or a dedicated World Assembly channel on the Thaecia Discord server. These discussions and opinions can help a WAD decide how to vote on a proposal, and also allows the opportunity for the Thaecian Government and other senior Foreign Affairs officials to have their input should they wish. Once a decision has been made and a vote cast, the WAD publishes a dispatch stating how they voted and why. It is worth noting that this, again, is precedent and not required by the WAD.
In the World Assembly, before a proposal can be put to vote, it requires to reach a quorum. This can be achieved by getting there resolution approved by WADs. WADs often receive telegrams requesting that they approve a proposal, and whether they do or not is completely up to them.
In Thaecia, the WAD holds an executive regional officer role. This is an incredibly important role with major responsibility, as the executive regional officer role means the WAD can dismiss/appoint other regional officers, close the regions borders and updated the World Factbook Entry (WFE). This means the WAD needs to be a trusted person who only exercises the executive powers when it is the wishes of the democratically elected Government and Congress. The WAD can freely update the WFE in order to keep citizens up to date on WA and regional happenings.
If you'd like to know about the World Assembly itself, scroll down to 'Helpful links' where there are links to WA guides made by esteemed members of the NationStates community.
If you would like to write a proposal for the World Assembly, this section contains the links to the rules for those proposals, and how you can get help and feedback.
General Assembly (GA): Detailed Rules and Advice
Security Council (SC): Rules
L.R.042, the Delegacy Transition Act, creates a procedure to be followed when a new World Assembly Delegate is elected. This section will take you through the process.
What YOU need to do
Endorse the Delegate-elect (and Vice Delegate-elect)
Do NOT un-endorse the outgoing Delegate
Do un-endorse any other nations that have more endorsements than the Delegate-elect
What the outgoing Delegate will do
The outgoing Delegate is legally required to cast their vote on resolutions, and approve proposals, in line with how the Delegate-elect requests.
What the incoming Delegate will do
The incoming Delegate is legally required to endorse all WA nations in Thaecia for the duration of the transition, and send a mass telegram to all WA nations in Thaecia, reminding them to endorse the Delegate-elect.
- Delegate Rayekka
Spanish Paellas are so good.
Here is the poll:
https://forms.gle/NWMHHvunHcpe61Vr5
Since I cannot decide who should be General Secretary of the Communist Party, I'll let the public decide. You might wanna read our history because it mentions some of the candidates, do so here.
Here's the link: https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8Ba0Yn7
Here's some info on each candidate:
Bartolo Leon
Age: 72
Background: Premier from 2002-2014. During his time there was a fear of economic collapse. However, the 1st five year plan of the millennium (2001-2006) saw a major upturn in economic output and the decline in unemployment. Many critics, in the old guard of the Communist Party, feared a move away from Communist ideals and as a result rigged local elections in 2006 to be in favour of more traditional communist party members.
John Norman Pritchard
Age: 64/65
Background: son of the late Premier Idwal Pritchard, who saw the occupation and annexation of the Falklands.
Info: much like his father Ideal, J.N. Pritchard is a believer in the idea of more western style of Government/soft communism. Similarly he has called for modernisation within the Supreme Soviet to make it more diverse politically. However, he is also deeply mistrusted due to several financial scandals and an affair with his mistress.
Info: Bartolo Leon has not been highly involved in the upper echelons of the Communist Party and most consider him a compromise between the Liberal Pritchard and the Conservative López de Lacalle.
Prudencio López de Lacalle
Age: 58
Background: Head of Comisariado del Pueblo para la Seguridad del Estado (the People's Commissariat for State Security).
Info: López de Lacelle is considered on the more conservative side of the Communist Party, a firm believer in the cult of personality forged by the first General Secretary of the Communist Party, Rodolfo Vicente. He is often regarded by the west as dangerous and too sympathetic towards China and Russia, especially in regard to their recent actions toward Taiwan and Ukraine.
If you want more info on candidates, I can happily answer.
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