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As we approach the date when Americans celebrate Thanksgiving, honoring the friendship of the settlers and the native Americans, I am posting the Iroquois prayer for Thanksgiving. When I posted this in several regions, a few Thanksgivings ago, I was criticized for posting a "pagan" prayer. However, I think the prayer is poignant and beautiful. And who, after all, is the Great Spirit?
We return thanks to the rivers and streams, which supply us with water.
We return thanks to all herbs, which furnish medicines for the cure of our diseases.
We return thanks to the corn, and to her sisters, the beans and squash, which give us life.
We return thanks to the bushes and trees, which provide us with fruit.
We return thanks to the wind, which, moving the air, sends sadness away.
We return thanks to the moon and stars, which have given us their light when the sun was gone.
We return thanks to our grandparents, who have protected their grandchildren from witches and reptiles, and have given us their rain.
We return thanks to the sun that has looked upon the Earth with beneficent eye.
We return thanks to the Great Spirit, who embodies all goodness, and who directs all things for the good of the children.
Insulusia and Liberfreedomia
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They say that great spirit refers to god or ''supreme being'' or is it just the name that Native Americans give to god or ''supreme beings''
Dear Lord, I give to you all the members of my family. You know them all so well and love them all too. Lord, I ask that you would cover us with a shower of hope.
Father, a hope that draws us together to work out our differences, and that helps us to celebrate together and care for one another.
A hope that rides like a banner in our lives and watches over us wherever we may go.
A hope that overcomes adversity and gathers strength to overcome.
A hope that guides us and gives us a vision for our future alone and together.
Lord give us hope filled with love, and which fuels faith.
A hope that breathes peace.
May our family live in you
Underneath your promises.
Amen.
AVE CHRISTUS REX!
CHRISTUS VINCIT CHRISTUS REGNAT CHRISTUS IMPERAT!
blessed and happy Christ the King brother and sisters in Christ!
Eponia, Nation1204, The Pilgrims in the Desert, Liberfreedomia, and 1 otherColmis
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Words cannot express my attitude towards our current Jesuit Pope. His petty actions against Cardinal Burke are just beyond the pale. And yet, as a Secular Franciscan, I cannot help to notice his gift of "true joy" to the cardinal.
One day at Saint Mary, Saint Francis called Brother Leo and said, "Brother Leo, write this down."
He answered, "I'm ready."
"Write what true joy is," he said. "A messenger comes and says that all the masters of theology in Paris have joined the Order—write: that is not true joy. Or all the prelates beyond the mountains—archbishops and bishops, or the King of France and the King of England—write: that is not true joy. Or that my friars have gone to the unbelievers and have converted all of them to the faith; or that I have so much grace from God that I heal the sick and I perform many miracles. I tell you that true joy is not in all those things."
"But what is true joy?"
"I am returning from Perugia, and I am coming here at night, in the dark. It is winter time and wet and muddy and so cold that icicles form at the edges of my habit and keep striking my legs, and blood flows from such wounds. And I come to the gate, all covered with mud and cold and ice, and after I have knocked and called for a long time, a friar comes and asks, 'Who are you?' I answer, 'Brother Francis.' And he says, 'Go away. This is not a decent time to be going about. You can't come in.'
"And when I insist again, he replies, 'Go away. You are a simple and uneducated fellow. From now on don't stay with us anymore. We are so many and so important that we don't need you.'
"But I still stand at the gate and say, 'For the love of God, let me come in tonight.' And he answers, 'I won't. Go to the Crosiers' Place [another monastery] and ask there.'
"I tell you that if I kept patience and was not upset—that is true joy and true virtue and salvation of the soul."
—14th century Latin manuscript
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I am not opposed to the idea by any means. My concern would be making sure that regions with fascists characteristics are kept far away from this alliance because that is all it would take for the powers that be in NS to blacklist us and maintain a negative view of this project.
Also, does Article 2-L imply that one cannot be an amillennialist? Given the age of this agreement, I think it could be fruitful to write up a new charter agreement once there is enough interests from some core regions.
I don't understand the point of this. To what end would this serve the Church, and to a lesser scale, our needs?
There are two main dynamics I think. The more nations you have cooperating, the larger impact you have in NationStates. This is simply a fact of the place we find ourselves in. Also, if there is an opportunity for us to share in a forum where we get to maintain contact with other Christians and speak about what we value, hold dear, then I am not one to immediately turn away.
Impact is a limited term in NationStates. Basically, you are talking about the GA/SC. It looks like either most of the players in our region aren't interested at all or have other puppet nations be their connection to that part of the game. Our delegate only has two of the WA members sponsoring his delegacy.
More importantly, as a former Old Guard member, that part of the game has been taken over by half serious and half stupid idiots. You are not going to have any impact on them whatsoever.
The reason most people in the region aren't in the WA is because the region discourages it 'per regional law'...
After reading the policy and such, I personally think most of the regions policy in that area is unsound, but I can get into that in a separate post if anyone wants my thoughts.
But regardless of that, I don't think more interaction and engagement between Christian regions, nations, and most importantly, the actual people behind those things, can be a bad thing, assuming all is done in good faith. Whether its just finding new online friends and having theological or philosophical discussion though this potential alliance/community, or if it does involve changes on nationstates regarding WA policy, potential cooperation for events on the site (cards, Z-Day, N-Day, etc [for those who participate in those elements]), I just don't see the harm in considering it, at the very least I feel some of us could have a positive human impact on someone, which makes it at least worth the consideration IMO.
I authored the current law having to do with the embargo on WA participation. The fact that a nation has to abide by the resolutions of the GA is enough to make the body reprehensible. There is certainly an argument for taking part in an attempt to change it from the inside, but the current culture of the WA makes that highly doubtable.
Today is the feast of the Immaculate Conception and a holy day of obligation, in which we must attend the holy mass. Let us pray for the intercession of the holy and sinless Mother of God, so we can follow her example and give our "yes" to God.
Christian Democrats, Castle Federation, Nation1204, The Pilgrims in the Desert, and 3 othersBeiranoah, Decembria, and Colmis
It's been about three years, if I remember correctly, since the region started drifting away from the WA, so I don't remember every detail of what happened during that time, but I do recall that I joined the WA for about a month before I decided to leave the WA, along with most members of this region. At the time there were movements among regions that we cooperated with historically to oppose various WA proposals (I believe Right to Life was trying to stop a WA proposal that would declare abortion to be a "human right", or something like that) that were contrary to Christian morality, but these WA proposals still passed with what I felt was an absurd majority, and I think that was the popular sentiment at the time. Many of us saw any attempt at influencing the WA to be futile simply because of how outnumbered we were, even with the efforts done to muster everyone together to vote against that proposal. (And since the security of our region is not based on the WA delegate, we had more flexibility in this regard.)
The trend of region members leaving the WA was already happening to some degree or another, and I believe the importance of the regional law was moreso that our rejection of the WA became official. Nonetheless, I do think that it would be good for this region to interact more with other regions for the other reasons you proposed.
I could see this being a compelling argument but we need to make sure that we discern if it's genuine fellowship or if it quickly devolves into a game of ideological submission. Often an issue I have found with online forums regarding Christian tradition and ecumenism.
I could be in favor of this if we form coalitions to unite our efforts against enemies of the church in Nationstates. Basically, if the coalition serves to protect us and our allies against raids.
This is great, thank you.
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