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Why is the WA majority os against in the current vote? It doesn't seem like a very bad thing.

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:| just read it realised I should have done something better ^~^

Ruberian wrote:

Why is the WA majority os against in the current vote? It doesn't seem like a very bad thing.

This proposal would make stomping ants an international crime, with consequent trial, and it is obviously an exaggeration. Arguing "you have no right to kill them" is sophism. Most people accept killing some animals even not in "defense of life": we exterminate ants from an house mostly because they eat out food not for the harm they could make to us. Moreover, with this proposal you should not dump a dead insect in the garbage because you could compromise an evidence.

The proposal uses "harvesting" for killing sentient beings for sapient beings' consume. I only have seen this term for plants, which are excluded by this resolution (they've not a proper nervous system to be considered a "sentient beings"), but I am not a native English speaker and maybe other comrades can help me understand it better. Also "harvesting" make me think of "picking up something", therefore this proposal would ban hunting, which is a fundamental source of food in extreme regions and for nomadic people. Again, I am not a native English speaker, so I could've misinterpreted it.

Finally, only sentient begins with a neocortex are considered sapient begins and only mammals have a proper neocortex. A nation of non-mamals would have its population not considered sapient beings and easily exploitable by other "sapient nations". Tolkien's Ents would not even been considered sentient beings not having a CNS.

Puaco wrote:

Just to double check
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Hello!

The Ministry of World Assembly Affairs has released a new voting recommendation!

Proposal: The Commission On Sentient And Sapient Rights
Official Recommendation: AGAINST
Voting Thread Link: https://tcb.red/threads/ga-in-queue-the-commission-on-sentient-and-sapient-rights.3667/

Check it out:

Vote AGAINST General Assembly Proposal "The Commission On Sentient And Sapient Rights"

by The Rainbow Confederacy of UFROE

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Official Voting Recommendation

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Proposal Title: The Commission On Sentient And Sapient Rights
Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed By: Heavens reach
Purpose: A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Our Recommendation

The Ministry hereby recommends that all WA nations vote AGAINST the current General Assembly proposal at-vote.

Rationale & Analysis

The proposal while being well written leaves behind several loopholes due to its vague definitions and lack of coverage of important parts of it. The definitions that it does have also have several issues with them, such as the need for sapient beings to possess a neocortex. For these reasons we have decided that TCB is against the proposal.

As such, Ministry leadership has directed Kethania to vote AGAINST The Commission On Sentient And Sapient Rights and we encourage all WA member nations within the Bloc to do the same.

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Brezzia wrote:

I personally don't consider the neocortex requirement to be the main loophole of this proposal. It is a correct clause unless we consider WA costum of using the (terrible imo) term "sapient" to include AI personhood. This excessive sci-fi detail allows argumentations to include every fantasy species (insectoids, reptilians, undead, talking plates from the Beauty and the Beast) in order to oppose most of its resolutions.

My biggest concern is the necessity of proving the mosquitoes Brezzians are killing this summer were hosting Plasmodium malariae in order to not be considered a people of specicides.

that was stated as a simple example not the main issue.

How do i get citizens

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