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The isles of great britain and ireland wrote:

As for England being better off without Scotland in the UK, all I hear from many English people I encounter online is how Scots are a bunch of whining subsidy junkies who they are sick of paying for and how we'd crash and burn outside the UK.

Curiously many of these same people get very indignant about the idea of us leaving or having another referendum, as if they somehow own Scotland.

I doubt Scotland would crash and burn but it would probably experience a sharp economic decline. It has a very high deficit largely enabled by membership of the union, so independence would likely lead to austerity. The rest of the UK is Scotland's largest trade partner, so independence would lead to a decline in that in the same way the UK's exports to the EU have declined. Any process of rejoining the EU would require cutting the deficit down to 3% and adopting the Euro and there's also the problems arising from a land border with the UK in Great Britain, which would be even worse than the one in Ireland. North Sea oil makes for a poor economic crutch since in comparison to the Gulf oil fields it's small and that market is notoriously unstable. For years now the UK's oil rigs have been moored up because the North Sea reserves are economically unviable.

There are reasonable questions about how often it's practical to have a referendum, at what point it becomes having a referendum over and over until you get the result you want. It was supposed to be a once-in-a-generation thing.

The isles of great britain and ireland wrote:

Nowhere in any legal document is once in a generation stipulated. That's not how democracy works. But if we're going for generation, the Good Friday Agreement defines a political generation as 7 years.

You're trying to say a land border on GB would be worse than Ireland? Are you kidding me? The Scotland-England border has nowhere near the same controversy history or crossing points as the Irish one. As for the EU, I'd rather have a Norway style setup. And funny how the oil is always a burden for poor old Scotland but a great asset for the UK.

I'd rather not get into a full on independence debate right now. It's late and I'm on my phone. I'd rather not have to type out big paragraphs on it. Furthermore, neither of us is going to convince the other so it'd be a fruitless exchange.

Nothing about a referendum is ever legally binding except the text that appears on the ballot.

The lack of an insurgency in Scotland doesn't resolve the land border issue. Either you can have a hard border and accept the hit with your largest trading partner, the UK, or you can choose to have a hard border with your second largest, the EU. There have to be border controls at some point between the EU and Great Britain to protect the single market. There is no good economic solution: the former is bad for business, the second defeats the point of being in the EU at all. The issue with the EU over the Irish land border was only resolved because the EU was prepared to accept more relaxed controls between Great Britain and Northern Ireland because of the smaller economic status of Northern Ireland. That solution isn't available when it comes to the Scottish border.

The oil is a great asset to nobody. The rigs are moored doing nothing north of Inverness because of declining oil prices. They're not making money for the UK and and they won't make money for Scotland.

Divine egypt wrote:

It's The isles of great britain and ireland here, peeps. Think I'll stick with this one as my secondary nation. Been on a bit of an ancient Egypt kick lately.

Tubb like an Egyptiiiiian

Bit of a random question but just wondering: how do you send those mass API telegrams?

Divine egypt wrote:

Pharaoh: (does the walk from the Bangles music video)

- Oh, here we go again, ... pay respect for the five brave heroes battling a 150 year old vampire in Cairo in 1987.

P.S. Didn't know we have leaders with Stands around here.

The New California Republic wrote:

Happy 2nd anniversary to our WA Delegate.

Two Tubby years! Celebrate, mmph mmph!

What is Lazarus Favorite alkoholic drink? Please tell, mine is Jack Daniels with Berry (exclusive to germany i think but it has 10%alk).

Kubach wrote:

What is Lazarus Favorite alkoholic drink? Please tell, mine is Jack Daniels with Berry (exclusive to germany i think but it has 10%alk).

In Delta Vega IV it's mead. But we are also great fans of imported Guiness from The Children's Crusade of Guiness Freaks.

Kubach wrote:

What is Lazarus Favorite alkoholic drink? Please tell, mine is Jack Daniels with Berry (exclusive to germany i think but it has 10%alk).

Whiskey!

OOC: I wanted to make an RP post about Leonism's further progress into future technology, as our scientific advancement rating has surpassed 1000 on the Kurzweil-Singularity index, a feat only bettered by 21 nations in Lazarus. But I'm afraid if I take Leonism too far into FT, I will no longer be able to RP in our standard Lazarene modern/post-modern setting with the likes of Cossack Peoples, Cianlandia, Dernel or Custadia, like in the South Sea War of 2020.

What do you think? If we take the scale repeatedly proposed by Aigania, Leonism should by now be well into FFT, with access to FTL-drives and unlimited energy.

Leonism wrote:


IC: We've banned all alcoholic drinks in Leonism, as the Imperial citizens need every one of their brain cells intact to carry the Imperium to greatness!

OOC: Radler (beer with lemonade) is actually my favourite, followed by Ouzo

Very over used German pun: Was bestellt ein Vampir in einer Kneipe? Ein Radler *ba dumm tsssss*

(eng: What does a vampire order in a bar? A biker... Yea, this doesn't work as well in English)

Nequan what happened?

Should we recreate an alliance