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Liberty and unity

Free market buisnesses wrote:No?

nah bro, some markets are ok, but too much leads to the corporations controlling everything at the expense of the poorer public

Arclandia

Free market buisnesses

Liberty and unity wrote:nah bro, some markets are ok, but too much leads to the corporations controlling everything at the expense of the poorer public

If the consumer wants smaller corporations then they can buy from smaller companies. See? The market sorts it out!

Viennaria

Free market buisnesses wrote:I wish you luck.
Yes, but the author will always impart their own implicit bias. Some people just think the world works differently and value things differently from others. Also, I wasn't trying to bait you.

Sorry, sometimes it is difficult to appreciate in simply written form some of the nuances.

Yes, there always will be bias, specially by the owners (as was pointed for example by President Rafael Correa from Ecuador).

The logical course of action (if we are honest to counteract the problem) is either the fairness doctrine or equivalent when discussing or presenting a news.

Of course it is vulnerable to tampering to drift the Overton window (as it has happened) but no system is completely foolproof. But honestly, there is no real honest interest in reform this problem in any "developed" country, because frankly the corporate overlords see it as a feature not as a bug, and the really concerned to reform it remain in the fringe.

Free market buisnesses, Arclandia, and Viennaria

Free market buisnesses

Aigania wrote:Sorry, sometimes it is difficult to appreciate in simply written form some of the nuances.

Yes, there always will be bias, specially by the owners (as was pointed for example by President Rafael Correa from Ecuador).

The logical course of action (if we are honest to counteract the problem) is either the fairness doctrine or equivalent when discussing or presenting a news.

Of course it is vulnerable to tampering to drift the Overton window (as it has happened) but no system is completely foolproof. But honestly, there is no real honest interest in reform this problem in any "developed" country, because frankly the corporate overlords see it as a feature not as a bug, and the really concerned to reform it remain in the fringe.

The media needs to remain free in order to have freedom of speech.

Arclandia and Viennaria

Liberty and unity

Free market buisnesses wrote:The media needs to remain free in order to have freedom of speech.

yes

Free market buisnesses and Viennaria

Liberty and unity

but they have to explain both sides of political stories as to prevent bias and fake news

New vedan

Free market buisnesses wrote:The media needs to remain free in order to have freedom of speech.

Precisely the point I trying to make along some of the possible ways to make it work with proven measures that already worked.

Free market buisnesses, Arclandia, and Viennaria

Liberty and unity wrote:but they have to explain both sides of political stories as to prevent bias and fake news

The original fairness doctrine. But currently there is a consensus on the general lines of order between the powers, only false and quite emotional "debate" it is allowed in a grand circus to distract attention. The great lines are not challenged.

New vedan, Free market buisnesses, Arclandia, and Viennaria

Free market buisnesses

Liberty and unity wrote:but they have to explain both sides of political stories as to prevent bias and fake news

Forcing the media to anything is an infringement of free speech. If people want it the government and/or private organizations can do fact checking and perhaps introduce fact checking into the nations curriculum for children?

Arclandia and Viennaria

Free market buisnesses

Aigania wrote:The original fairness doctrine. But currently there is a consensus on the general lines of order between the powers, only false and quite emotional "debate" it is allowed in a grand circus to distract attention. The great lines are not challenged.

Emotion can have a place in some debates, actually in some debates I would argue that it's necessary.

Viennaria

Free market buisnesses wrote:Emotion can have a place in some debates, actually in some debates I would argue that it's necessary.

Except the forums. Emotional outbursts there usually take the form of flaming etc.

Aigania, Free market buisnesses, and Arclandia

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Free market buisnesses

The New California Republic wrote:Except the forums. Emotional outbursts there usually take the form of flaming etc.

I didn't mean outbursts?

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Arclandia

Free market buisnesses wrote:I didn't mean outbursts?

When emotion becomes an important aspect of a debate on the forums then it does almost inevitably result in someone starting to dish out flames.

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Free market buisnesses

The New California Republic wrote:When emotion becomes an important aspect of a debate on the forums then it does almost inevitably result in someone starting to dish out flames.

Emotion is inherently important to certain discussions, I'm sure it's possible to construct an emotional argument without falling victim to irrationality.

Arclandia and Viennaria

when did this argument on debates start, anyways?

Free market buisnesses

Free market buisnesses wrote:"By the people, for the consumer, with the markets" you mean.

I like "BUY the people and the consumer, by the market."

Free market buisnesses

Free market buisnesses wrote:Emotion is inherently important to certain discussions, I'm sure it's possible to construct an emotional argument without falling victim to irrationality.

Sure it is, but inevitably in the emotive subjects the risk of flames increases massively.

Arclandia

Divine egypt wrote:Our leader is divine too! We should be allies.

Maybe we should. We'll see about that as your nation develops

Free market buisnesses and Divine egypt

Yall hear about that shooting in Colorado?

Liberty and unity

New vedan wrote:Yall hear about that shooting in Colorado?

Yeah, there was a livestream on YouTube about it. Someone recorded most of it

Free market buisnesses

Hraban wrote:I like "BUY the people and the consumer, by the market."

My favorite thing about this nation is that we have recognized AI personhood and have slavery. It's like, "sure, you can be a person. Now back to work!" No benefits for being recognized lol.

New vedan, Hraban, and Divine egypt

Hraban wrote:Maybe we should. We'll see about that as your nation develops

What would put you off an alliance?

God I hate tornados.

Hraban, Free market buisnesses, and Divine egypt

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