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Nattily dressed anarchists on bicycles wrote:I mean, it's not really about taking pride in my ability to pay for a donut, cause that would be stupid. It just that there are so many better things stranger could be spending their time and money on instead, and still get feel-good points on their InstaTwitFace to boot.

Huh. I guess it's up to him how he spends his time and money. Like I said, maybe someone made him feel better when he really needed it, so he wants to spend his time and his money trying to do that for others. I don't think there's anything wrong with that - for me, it's the intention that matters, and he's just trying to do something nice. You can't say he's wrong to do that because he could be sending money to Africa instead or something, because I believe that charity is (and should be) a very personal thing.

My advice to you, in the nicest of ways, would be to curb your cynicism a little. I get really uncomfortable when people give me compliments, that's just how I am, but I like to see it as the person trying to brighten my day a little, not them going out of their way to make me feel uncomfortable. The poor guy probably didn't realise that what he thought would be a nice thing would deeply upset you.

Not that I get a lot of compliments...

Lord Dominator wrote:Unrelated, but Terrabod sent me an interesting idea via tg the other day, and I've been criminally negligent in replying to that, but I do want to see what the region thinks:

Don't worry, I'm currently in the process of drafting Security Council Resolution #170 - Condemn Lord Dominator.

Middle Barael wrote:One thing I just realized with regards to Forest’s foreign policy is that we do not have an embassy with The Embassy. I think this may be because it only has a few actual members, but it has so many foreign visitors who post that it’s as if they have hundreds of people.

I know The Embassy has faced controversy after it made embassies with a bunch of fascist regions, but this is not only the case with The Embassy (many other large regions do it too), and they have now established a policy of closing embassies with any particularly hateful regions. While they still have a long ways to go, I think this is a good step.

Establishing an embassy with The Embassy would also allow Forestians to post TripAdvisor reviews of regions and nations, and it would allow them to connect with other nations on the RMB without having to use telegrams or the forums.

And so now I hereby request an embassy with The Embassy

Hmm, not a bad idea, but it kinda defeats the purpose of embassies since we do the majority of our discussions here, plus any of the inhabitants of those regions that post here. The Embassy is deliberately small because of their twice-negligent founder, who CTE'd once and forced the password installation, then came back and removed it and promptly CTE'd again, forcing it a second time.

Darths and Droids wrote:Hmm, not a bad idea, but it kinda defeats the purpose of embassies since we do the majority of our discussions here, plus any of the inhabitants of those regions that post here. The Embassy is deliberately small because of their twice-negligent founder, who CTE'd once and forced the password installation, then came back and removed it and promptly CTE'd again, forcing it a second time.

I understand, but I think this way Forestians could easily converse with nations whose regions are not in embassy with Forest, allowing us to communicate outwards more. I doubt this would make us have any less discussions on our own regional RMB, as most of us would likely not want to have to go to another region’s RMB for most discussions, but this would allow us to still converse with more nations if we so want.

Also sorry for the slightly convoluted explanation, I am tired and also busy half-listening to some CNN reporter ranting about how bad the presence of the national guard in Portland is

Middle Barael wrote:One thing I just realized with regards to Forest’s foreign policy is that we do not have an embassy with The Embassy. I think this may be because it only has a few actual members, but it has so many foreign visitors who post that it’s as if they have hundreds of people.

I know The Embassy has faced controversy after it made embassies with a bunch of fascist regions, but this is not only the case with The Embassy (many other large regions do it too), and they have now established a policy of closing embassies with any particularly hateful regions. While they still have a long ways to go, I think this is a good step.

Establishing an embassy with The Embassy would also allow Forestians to post TripAdvisor reviews of regions and nations, and it would allow them to connect with other nations on the RMB without having to use telegrams or the forums.

And so now I hereby request an embassy with The Embassy

The Embassy does not meet the requirement of 6 WA nations to be eligible. They don't even have 6 members, let alone 6 in the WA. That means that it is not allowed an embassy under the constitution (for now, depending on what the details of that amendment for our N-Day embassy say).

Personal thoughts: I don't support the idea of an embassy that exists to function as a forum, since we already have an offsite forum as well as the onsite NS forum. I'm sure that there are a number of regions with offsite forums that allow guest participation if you are interested, or region threads in the main forum you could participate in.

Middle Barael wrote:One thing I just realized with regards to Forest’s foreign policy is that we do not have an embassy with The Embassy. I think this may be because it only has a few actual members, but it has so many foreign visitors who post that it’s as if they have hundreds of people.

I know The Embassy has faced controversy after it made embassies with a bunch of fascist regions, but this is not only the case with The Embassy (many other large regions do it too), and they have now established a policy of closing embassies with any particularly hateful regions. While they still have a long ways to go, I think this is a good step.

Establishing an embassy with The Embassy would also allow Forestians to post TripAdvisor reviews of regions and nations, and it would allow them to connect with other nations on the RMB without having to use telegrams or the forums.

And so now I hereby request an embassy with The Embassy

The Embassy is not eligible for an embassy with us, because they do not have six WA nations in residence. Not to throw a wet blanket, lol...

Lord Dominator wrote: ~snip~

Unrelated, but Terrabod sent me an interesting idea via tg the other day, and I've been criminally negligent in replying to that, but I do want to see what the region thinks:

Hi Lord Dominator,

I was thinking it would be cool thing for Forest to have a weekly profile of a famous environmentalist, including info like their background, environmental activism work, the impact of their work and the recognition they gained. I've been looking at the work of well known (and less well known) environmentalists and have been surprised at how many of them started with a small issue they cared about and went on to accomplish real, meaningful change. I think it would be a good way for the folks in Forest to learn about the diverse group of people that laid the foundations of our goals as a nation today, and I hope it would inspire them to find their own way to make a difference.

Please let me know what you think! If this doesn't come under your role as Forest's Community Branch I'd appreciate it if you could point me towards the right person.

Many thanks,
Terrabod

I received the same idea and think that I should include a profile of an environmentalist in my upcoming monthly dispatch but I don't know if it is something that I could do on a weekly basis.

Terrabod, great idea! Thank you!

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Hello! If you saw the new guy on the Discord, that’s me. I’ve had a puppet here before, but never fully invested in it. Looking forwards to having great times with all of you.

Middle Barael wrote:One thing I just realized with regards to Forest’s foreign policy is that we do not have an embassy with The Embassy

And so now I hereby request an embassy with The Embassy

Did we ever decide on an Embassy or not with The Black Hawks? Already proposed by Outer Bele Levy Epies and seconded by myself? They must meet the criteria and we have a close association with them.

There will be no white flag above my doo wrote:Did we ever decide on an Embassy or not with The Black Hawks? Already proposed by Outer Bele Levy Epies and seconded by myself? They must meet the criteria and we have a close association with them.

They meet 1. 5 WA nations and 2. 6 months (obviously). But they also have to explain what their relationship with the environment/nature is. Birds of prey? Scavengers/carrion-eaters? Pest control?

Nattily dressed anarchists on bicycles wrote:See, exactly. Giving should be a temporary stop-gap measure to get someone back onto their own bootstraps. Since the point is making a self-reliant individual, the giver can't really lord over it. And since the receiver becomes self-reliant, there isn't anything really to be embarrassed about, at least not going forward.

I mean, it's not really about taking pride in my ability to pay for a donut, cause that would be stupid. It just that there are so many better things stranger could be spending their time and money on instead

Maybe you have a philosophical point, in the larger scheme of things. But looking at your particular situation, I see no problem whatsoever. I like to see people doing things like that. Even if part of the motivation was to make the giver feel better about themselves. Sure, the money could be spent in better ways. But not everyone knows good ways to give, or may even be the type of person predisposed to get involved with charity organizations. But it doesn't take much to try to make a fellow human being's day a little bit better, and the opportunities to do so are plentiful.

Terrabod wrote:Not that I get a lot of compliments...

I like your flag :) Black and gold always look great on a flag, in my opinion. Very classy and unique.

hello foresters

Northern Wood wrote:I like your flag :) Black and gold always look great on a flag, in my opinion. Very classy and unique.

Agh! Damn you! You hath made me uncomfortable!

There will be no white flag above my doo wrote:Did we ever decide on an Embassy or not with The Black Hawks? Already proposed by Outer Bele Levy Epies and seconded by myself? They must meet the criteria and we have a close association with them.

I'm fairly sure my existence wouldn't qualify (and it's actually "control" that is the criterion), nor do I particularly think it's a good idea.

Lord Dominator wrote:I'm fairly sure my existence wouldn't qualify (and it's actually "control" that is the criterion), nor do I particularly think it's a good idea.

I agree with you...I don't know that such a vote would pass, lol. Somehow I can't see Forest voting for an embassy with The Black Hawks.

If we have "considerable interest from the Forest community" we'll have a vote on it, however, as per the constitution.

Lord Dominator wrote:I'm fairly sure my existence wouldn't qualify (and it's actually "control" that is the criterion), nor do I particularly think it's a good idea.

They probably qualify more than most of our other embassies and with Agent Jakker now a trusted moderator deciding the legality of WA and SC proposals, what's not to like? We can't hide behind the cloak of 'neutrality'

There will be no white flag above my doo wrote:They probably qualify more than most of our other embassies and with Agent Jakker now a trusted moderator deciding the legality of WA and SC proposals, what's not to like? We can't hide behind the cloak of 'neutrality'

What’s so great about a region with an SC moderator in it?

There will be no white flag above my doo wrote:They probably qualify more than most of our other embassies and with Agent Jakker now a trusted moderator deciding the legality of WA and SC proposals, what's not to like? We can't hide behind the cloak of 'neutrality'

Down with the mods.

Atsvea wrote:Down with the mods.

Unfathomably based.

There will be no white flag above my doo wrote:They probably qualify more than most of our other embassies and with Agent Jakker now a trusted moderator deciding the legality of WA and SC proposals, what's not to like? We can't hide behind the cloak of 'neutrality'

Mods are no different from normal players besides their mod abilities. The only thing you'd gain from having a mod as a regional officer or founder is cool kids credit.

Lousykitty wrote:Unfathomably based.

Mods are no different from normal players besides their mod abilities. The only thing you'd gain from having a mod as a regional officer or founder is cool kids credit.

Very tempting to mod suppress this.

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Hello I am alive again. I took a break for summer.

Ransium wrote:What’s so great about a region with an SC moderator in it?

It was just to reassure anyone who might think they are just a region of bullies.

Ransium wrote:Very tempting to mod suppress this.

Suppression of dissenting voices? We should talk. Call me.

Lousykitty wrote:Suppression of dissenting voices? We should talk. Call me.

Mod abuse for lolz is my mod kryptonite.

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I’m on the fence about the current SC proposal. While I am against raiding, and I prefer defenders, I do usually makes exceptions when voting in the SC if they are Anti-Fascist armies, but this one is harder to get behind.

Firstly, The Red Fleet is not only communist, but they also claim to wage war on capitalist regions. Secondly, they seem to have participated quite minimally in many of the anti-fascist liberations, which is not that bad a crime, but since they lied/exaggerated their role in them in their commendation, I feel it’s a punishable offense. Finally, as much as they are anti-fascist, they seem to have become just as authoritarian and militant in their own right, having tried to expel another anti-fascist region from an interregional anti-fascist pact simply for a diplomatic feud, and their war on capitalists is almost as authoritarian and intolerant as the fascists.

I’m really not sure what to do; what do you say, Forest?

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