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🎂 Congratulations to ourselfs for opening our legislative region!
I think we first have to wait on the merger with the FCA but I would like to comment on something I noticed the past few days. 
South Waterford, you have been posting messages on RMBs of other regions about various things. I really liked that and I do believe that other government officials now and in the future need to keep doing this because it can be of value for our region.
Constitutional Amendment Proposal 1: This Amendment shall replace Article 1 of the current constitution
Article # :: Legislature
Section 1 :: The Body
#.0 The Governing body who shall compose legislation for this region shall be known as the State Council.
#.1 The State Council shall be composed of an uneven number of Senators, starting with 3, who shall be elected by the members of the region every two months, should a vacancy arise a by-election shall be arranged to fill the vacancy.
#.2 The State Council may, by simple mayority, raise the number of members one step (+2) for the next elections, if activity in the region allows to.
#.3 All Senators must be members of the region and should any Senator move from this region, their position will be considered forfeit.
Section 2 :: Tasks of the State Council
#.5 It shall be the role of the State Council to Create and Vote on governing legislation for the region.
#.6 The State Council may call for a referendum, if a majority is reached.
#.7 The State Council may investigate and ask questions to ministers on their work and progress.
#.8 Treaties, Embassies and others, except mergers, must be approved by a majority of the Council
#.9 Any legislation deemed to conflict with the constitution shall be deemed void if decided on by the Chief Justice.
Section 3 :: Elections
#.10 Elections for the State Council shall be held every other month compared to the president elections.
#.11 The last day of the elections shall always be the 30th or 31st, depending on the month, and will take 7 days.
#.12 Members of the UAS may declare participation 7 days before the polls open and have 3 days to declare participation.
#.13 Members shall have 4 days to campaign, with a maximum of 1 campaign post per 24 hours on the RMB and region-wide telegrams are forbidden.
#.14 On the 28th or 29th, depending on the month, polls shall be opened for 3 days, to all residents by the founder
#.15 Each member nation has 1 vote and if there is a tie, a 1 day run off shall be held on the 1st of the next month to decide the winner.
#.16 Election results shall be declared by the founder.
Article # :: The Citizenry
#.1 The citizens of the UAS may propose legislation.
#.2 The Founder shall call out a referendum and when a majority of the citizens of the UAS support the legislation it must be discussed and voted on by the State Council.
#.3 Polls for referenda can only be hold once a week and in weeks without elections.
#.4 The Citizens may also call for a referendum on legislation passed by the state council, without referendum, and if more then 5 members support this, a referendum shall be arranged (when possible).
#.5 The Citizens have the only say on any merger by referendum.
Section 1 #4 is not agreeable, since any person may have some work they need to do, so it is actually controlling how someone spends their time.
Section 2 #9 is under functions of Founder, so I think it will under the Founder's office. Again, there cannarise a situation where a majority of the region supports a decision not backed by the Founder, and this power can be misused. This should actually come under the Cheif Justice and not the Chairman, since the Cheif Justice os head of constitutional interpretation. Point: this is not an attack on South Waterford, but a technicality.
I would also like to propose one change, that instead pf having a single body for 2 months, we could change it such that there will be elections severy month, where half of the previous will retire and a new half will come. Thos will bring in some amount of continuity in legislation. (1)
Please specify the number of Council Members.
Now, one of my propositions, (1) conflicts withnyour having an odd number of members. We can solve it by having the Prime Minster of the Council, pr the President depend upon which party has a majority on the House, which should also make a better executive.
I would also like to point out something, that in the present dorm of government, there is no advantage to me as a PM, on being the PM. So, I would like to propose that legislation proposed by the Executive shall gain priority over private bills.
South WaterfordSilicon land
Section 1 #4 disagree but removed
Section 2 #9 agree, changed
I assumed that there would be too much polling if we had midterms. The Seats would be split like this then: 2 in february and 1 in march.
I like your idea with political parties but when it comes to the UAS as a region, party politics should not be important and should not have too great An impact.
All legislation should be equal, what you propose should be in a law, not in the constitution. The executive branch will be done after this one and it will be more defined then, the position of PM would be removed because at this moment the constitution is not clear on the government type. (Semi-)Presidential?
I request South Waterford to place my Constitutional amendment in a factbook on the WFE. I shall propose a law concerning the structuring of the Council later.
Roma invictai Silicon landSouth Waterford
Nope, do we or don't we want midterm elections? And if so, how?
Now, voting through polls allows us to only have one vote. Which means that we need an enormous voter base to have a normal election.
Example: 5 candidates for 3 Seats with 9 potential voters, and thus votes (current situation). Means an average of 1.8 votes per candidate, which always must result in run offs because the differences are too small.
I therefore propose to do polling offline, surveymonkey, and allow everyone the same amount of votes as there are seats in the council. This will increase the number of votes from 9 to 27, increase the difference between the candidates and makes general elections easier. We just have to send the link to all members with mass tg.
Test: https://nl.surveymonkey.com/r/LSZ27FP
And if yes, I need to change the elections procedure, which brings other things we need to discuss about first :/
Furthermore, should presidential elections move to the offline polls to. They can be easily included.
How are you going to manage that? Polls can only be done one at a time. Telegrams is a possibility, but can become messy.
Why can we not just create an election commission. One can telegram their votes, and that is it. Conditions are that the Commissioner has to be a WA member, and he cannot run for any offices.
Also, do we want first past the post system, or based on ranking basis, where the members will swnd in their preferences by rank, and then we can declare the winner. Watch CGPGrey for more info.
Post self-deleted by The tajo league.
But who hads to run such a Commission?
Section 3 :: Elections
#.10 Elections for the State Council shall be held every month and shall be divided in general (together with presidential elections) and midterm (one month later)
#.11 During the general elections 1 seat will be up for election and during midterms 2 seats.
#.11 The last day of the elections shall always be the 30th or 31st, depending on the month, and will take 7 days.
#.12 Members of the UAS may declare participation 7 days before the polls open and have 3 days to declare participation.
#.13 Members shall have 4 days to campaign, with a maximum of 1 campaign post per 24 hours on the RMB and region-wide telegrams are forbidden and a campaign dispatch shall be created with the platforms of all candidates.
#.14 On the 28th or 29th, depending on the month, voting shall be opened for 3 days, to all residents by the founder.
#.15 Each member nation must rank the preferred candidates. The member may stop ranking until there are no more preferred candidates.
#.17 Members must send their votes to the election commission by telegram.
#.16 Election results shall be declared by the founder.
So there would be only 4 seats total on the State Council?
3 seats, with the possibility to increase that number to 5 then 7 then 9, depending on the region size.
Do not forget that there are many other things nations can do besides politics. Newspaper, simple roleplays (the role players hub is considered difficult), just chatting about anything on the RMB :) , you name it.
I don’t agree with this, I think all WA nations should be part of the S.C.
In fact I would propose we keep our bicameral legislature, with WA nations in the Upper House and non WA nations in the Lower House; however the Upper House does not need the Lower House to approve their legislation, but if the Lower House wants to pass legislation then it must go through the Upper House.
I agree with regards to WA membership as a prerequisite for S.C. membership, but I believe the legislature should be unicameral.
I also propose renaming the legislature.
In our current state, an overly complex quagmire of a system will grind us to an ignominious halt.
I believe there should also be but one elected executive, with the Chairman as a diplomatic figurehead
All this argument is futile until we actually elect the election Commissioner. That should be our top priority right now.
Also, I support the formation of a single Legislative body.
How do we represent the Non WA nations? Part of the reason for the FCA merging into us was the fact we had representation for WA and Non WA members.
There is no point really is representing non-WA nations. It opens the possibility of allowing puppets to participate in government. And in response to the argument that it would create an oligarchy, I point out that any non-WA nation following NS rules and guidelines can just join up with the WA, so it's not like WA nations are an exclusive, unapproachable elite group. As for the Free Conservative Alliance, you can just hold non-WA nations that joined in a regional merger exempt.
Really though, you're missing the point. Regardless of what you want to do with regards to non-WA nations, having a bicameral legislature is too inefficient and wastes too much time. It would be better to have a unicameral legislature.
You are NOT agreeing on any point, are you?
Silicon land - Electing a election commissioner is futile since we haven't formalised this legislation yet (voted and passed it).
The free mutant republic of genosha - I have already stated that having a puppet registration does not work and if you want genuine people in government we are much safer using only WA nations. Yes, it is very easy for nations to join the WA but it always remains a slight barrier. (the ones that do take the step are generally more active though).
Even a region with a 1000 nations uses a unicameral system. Why? consider all nations as 1 member, then it more looks like a small village then a complete country :P
Yes, you could create a list of nations that are exempted from the WA rule. This is way easier to maintain and allows those nations to participate on the grounds that they joined us and we know that they are genuine.
Handal ands - Specialisation up until a certain point is a good thing. If all nations are part of the SC we would be, like now, talking and disagreeing but not reaching any agreements. BTW, as stated above, most nations are not going to be active anyway (I also said days ago, or was it weeks?) and we should not focus on those nations. If you want to be part of the legislative process you can always participate in the elections and if you win the elections, you will.
EVERYONE, ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS
- Unicameral or Bicameral
- WA requirement yes or no
- Who should be election commissionar
- Elections on this website or on surveymonkey
^Majority rules, and that shall be the legislation I shall propose
Example of voting on Surveymonkey, for those who haven't seen it or tried it: https://nl.surveymonkey.com/r/THJH59Z
I don't see how your position disagrees with mine. I never mentioned puppet registration, and as you said, the slight barrier to surmount of becoming a WA nation is indicative of a commitment to political activity.
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