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Cianlandia wrote:Which is strange, because slavery in Ancient Egypt was pretty light compared to other regions, especially Babylon, areas of Rome, and the not contemporary Aztecs.
I've been here since 2013 and I only learn this now?!?!?

Slavery is slavery. No such thing as "light" slavery.

Demonos, Free market buisnesses, and Arclandia

Divine egypt wrote:Slavery is slavery. No such thing as "light" slavery.

Actually there is! It's called "indentured servitude".

Delta Vega IV, Guiness Freaks, and Free market buisnesses

Free market buisnesses

Domais wrote:No, what would ruin the fun would be me choosing something that will mess up my nation.

Isn't that part of the fun?

New vedan wrote:Actually there is! It's called "indentured servitude".

Or prison labor!

Aigania, Delta Vega IV, New vedan, Demonos, and 1 otherGuiness Freaks

New vedan wrote:Actually there is! It's called "indentured servitude".

That's different from chattel slavery.

Aigania, New vedan, Guiness Freaks, and Free market buisnesses

Free market buisnesses

Divine egypt wrote:That's different from chattel slavery.

still forced unpaid labor though!

Aigania, New vedan, and Divine egypt

Arclandia

Liberty and unity wrote:You make a good point, but some media and news stations twist the truth to fit their own beliefs and to spread their own beliefs. A perfect example of this BLM, the Capital riot, and the 2020 election, as well as Donald Trump's entire executive term. Many news stations twisted the truth about Trump to have people dislike him without knowing the full truth. Some also mislead the public so that the viewers believe in the media more than themselves.

The United Federation has been underfunding and defunding their education system for decades, and it's why their outlets get away with the pandering they do. We had insiders present for the Bigtopian Lives Matter movement and a lot of what Edward Rump did in response to that. We expected that their less conservative media sources would be interested in accurately reporting that particular event, but no, even they couldn't be bothered.

Unfortunately, the same freedom of speech that should protect the BLM protestors also protects the media. When we've restricted one, we've restricted both. To preserve one subset of rights but not the other would render us hypocrites. As bad as it is for the BLM movement's credibility, the media has to be free to misreport because the side effect of misreporting in the preservation of rights is less egregious than the impact of setting a precedent that we can limit rights in the name of enforcing truth -- and if we're going to enforce truth, we have to define what the truth is and who defines it. That leads us on a dangerous path toward state controlled propaganda machines.

{OoC: I live in the Seattle area. As a queer person, Capitol Hill is kind of my backyard. I was very interested in knowing more about the Black Lives Matter protest happening there, and I even ended up volunteering after I'd scoped it out for myself. I started out as basic barricade security but ended up becoming more relied upon over time as I got to know some of the leadership better and sharing the benefit of my military and civilian security experience with them. By the time I had to return to "real" life, I was helping to manage the barricade details and providing the media teams that wanted interviews with security details for their safety.

{BLM Seattle reached out to MSNBC and NPR in the hopes of using them to correct FOX's narrative. MSNBC maintained radio silence and never responded to us. NPR specifically told us they couldn't report on it honestly without damaging the movement's credibility because they'd discovered (accurately) that there were direct ties between BLM leadership and gang activity, and they'd have to report all of it if they were going to report any. Silence, NPR said, was the best support they could offer us. We just assumed the same was true of MSNBC and quit trying. In spite of understanding, it frustrated me. There was no voice for BLM or objective reporting on what was going on inside those barricades during and after when the badges abandoned the precinct. The local FOXNews station showed up once to interview us and report the experience. After their initial local report aired (a report that was very moderate and deviated from the rest of FOX's narrative), none of the anchors with whom we'd originally spoken would return our calls, and their organization only sent in drones to collect video from above or outside while the local station's reports drastically shifted away from the interviews they'd gotten.

{As a fellow player OoC, I appreciate deeply that you took the time to shout out the bullsh*t reporting that happened about BLM. It warmed my heart to know that people know better.}

Aigania, New vedan, Demonos, Free market buisnesses, and 1 otherLiberty and unity

Free market buisnesses

Arclandia wrote:

The United Federation has been underfunding and defunding their education system for decades, and it's why their outlets get away with the pandering they do. We had insiders present for the Bigtopian Lives Matter movement and a lot of what Edward Rump did in response to that. We expected that their less conservative media sources would be interested in accurately reporting that particular event, but no, even they couldn't be bothered.

Unfortunately, the same freedom of speech that should protect the BLM protestors also protects the media. When we've restricted one, we've restricted both. To preserve one subset of rights but not the other would render us hypocrites. As bad as it is for the BLM movement's credibility, the media has to be free to misreport because the side effect of misreporting in the preservation of rights is less egregious than the impact of setting a precedent that we can limit rights in the name of enforcing truth -- and if we're going to enforce truth, we have to define what the truth is and who defines it. That leads us on a dangerous path toward state controlled propaganda machines.

{OoC: I live in the Seattle area. As a queer person, Capitol Hill is kind of my backyard. I was very interested in knowing more about the Black Lives Matter protest happening there, and I even ended up volunteering after I'd scoped it out for myself. I started out as basic barricade security but ended up becoming more relied upon over time as I got to know some of the leadership better and sharing the benefit of my military and civilian security experience with them. By the time I had to return to "real" life, I was helping to manage the barricade details and providing the media teams that wanted interviews with security details for their safety.

{BLM Seattle reached out to MSNBC and NPR in the hopes of using them to correct FOX's narrative. MSNBC maintained radio silence and never responded to us. NPR specifically told us they couldn't report on it honestly without damaging the movement's credibility because they'd discovered (accurately) that there were direct ties between BLM leadership and gang activity, and they'd have to report all of it if they were going to report any. Silence, NPR said, was the best support they could offer us. We just assumed the same was true of MSNBC and quit trying. In spite of understanding, it frustrated me. There was no voice for BLM or objective reporting on what was going on inside those barricades during and after when the badges abandoned the precinct. The local FOXNews station showed up once to interview us and report the experience. After their initial local report aired (a report that was very moderate and deviated from the rest of FOX's narrative), none of the anchors with whom we'd originally spoken would return our calls, and their organization only sent in drones to collect video from above or outside while the local station's reports drastically shifted away from the interviews they'd gotten.

{As a fellow player OoC, I appreciate deeply that you took the time to shout out the bullsh*t reporting that happened about BLM. It warmed my heart to know that people know better.}

So what you're saying is that even not reporting on something is biased?

Arclandia

Arclandia

Free market buisnesses wrote:So what you're saying is that even not reporting on something is biased?

That actually is precisely our assertion. Even silence can be implied complicity in a way. As no person is capable of being without bias in their observations, they are incapable of making a choice about writing those observations objectively. It then doesn't matter who owns the syndicate or publication when it comes to bias. A government can no more regulate bias than it can regulate belief. A government can regulate speech and expression, but it cannot regulate hidden, intangible thought. Trying to legislate bias out of authorship is like trying to regulate form out of art.

Aigania, New vedan, and Free market buisnesses

Free market buisnesses

Arclandia wrote:That actually is precisely our assertion. Even silence can be implied complicity in a way. As no person is capable of being without bias in their observations, they are incapable of making a choice about writing those observations objectively. It then doesn't matter who owns the syndicate or publication when it comes to bias. A government can no more regulate bias than it can regulate belief. A government can regulate speech and expression, but it cannot regulate hidden, intangible thought. Trying to legislate bias out of authorship is like trying to regulate form out of art.

:)

Arclandia

Free market buisnesses wrote:Isn't that part of the fun?
Or prison labor!

I agree, having to choose something awful because the issue itself is an awful situation is part of the fun. It makes things more interesting when you actually have to think about what the lesser sh*t stain would be from your own beliefs and goals.

Delta Vega IV and Free market buisnesses

Arclandia wrote:
The United Federation has been underfunding and defunding their education system for decades, and it's why their outlets get away with the pandering they do. We had insiders present for the Bigtopian Lives Matter movement and a lot of what Edward Rump did in response to that. We expected that their less conservative media sources would be interested in accurately reporting that particular event, but no, even they couldn't be bothered.

Unfortunately, the same freedom of speech that should protect the BLM protestors also protects the media. When we've restricted one, we've restricted both. To preserve one subset of rights but not the other would render us hypocrites. As bad as it is for the BLM movement's credibility, the media has to be free to misreport because the side effect of misreporting in the preservation of rights is less egregious than the impact of setting a precedent that we can limit rights in the name of enforcing truth -- and if we're going to enforce truth, we have to define what the truth is and who defines it. That leads us on a dangerous path toward state controlled propaganda machines.

{OoC: I live in the Seattle area. As a queer person, Capitol Hill is kind of my backyard. I was very interested in knowing more about the Black Lives Matter protest happening there, and I even ended up volunteering after I'd scoped it out for myself. I started out as basic barricade security but ended up becoming more relied upon over time as I got to know some of the leadership better and sharing the benefit of my military and civilian security experience with them. By the time I had to return to "real" life, I was helping to manage the barricade details and providing the media teams that wanted interviews with security details for their safety.

{BLM Seattle reached out to MSNBC and NPR in the hopes of using them to correct FOX's narrative. MSNBC maintained radio silence and never responded to us. NPR specifically told us they couldn't report on it honestly without damaging the movement's credibility because they'd discovered (accurately) that there were direct ties between BLM leadership and gang activity, and they'd have to report all of it if they were going to report any. Silence, NPR said, was the best support they could offer us. We just assumed the same was true of MSNBC and quit trying. In spite of understanding, it frustrated me. There was no voice for BLM or objective reporting on what was going on inside those barricades during and after when the badges abandoned the precinct. The local FOXNews station showed up once to interview us and report the experience. After their initial local report aired (a report that was very moderate and deviated from the rest of FOX's narrative), none of the anchors with whom we'd originally spoken would return our calls, and their organization only sent in drones to collect video from above or outside while the local station's reports drastically shifted away from the interviews they'd gotten.

{As a fellow player OoC, I appreciate deeply that you took the time to shout out the bullsh*t reporting that happened about BLM. It warmed my heart to know that people know better.}

Wait so you were actually apart of the Chaz protests? Could I ask you how things really were there? I heard that it was a rather chill place during the daytime. But that it also had alot of rape,robbery,and murders take place after dark and that's why seattle eventually shut it down.

Free market buisnesses and Arclandia

Mholeostiww

Arclandia wrote:The United Federation has been underfunding and defunding their education system for decades, and it's why their outlets get away with the pandering they do. We had insiders present for the Bigtopian Lives Matter movement and a lot of what Edward Rump did in response to that. We expected that their less conservative media sources would be interested in accurately reporting that particular event, but no, even they couldn't be bothered.

Unfortunately, the same freedom of speech that should protect the BLM protestors also protects the media. When we've restricted one, we've restricted both. To preserve one subset of rights but not the other would render us hypocrites. As bad as it is for the BLM movement's credibility, the media has to be free to misreport because the side effect of misreporting in the preservation of rights is less egregious than the impact of setting a precedent that we can limit rights in the name of enforcing truth -- and if we're going to enforce truth, we have to define what the truth is and who defines it. That leads us on a dangerous path toward state controlled propaganda machines.

{OoC: I live in the Seattle area. As a queer person, Capitol Hill is kind of my backyard. I was very interested in knowing more about the Black Lives Matter protest happening there, and I even ended up volunteering after I'd scoped it out for myself. I started out as basic barricade security but ended up becoming more relied upon over time as I got to know some of the leadership better and sharing the benefit of my military and civilian security experience with them. By the time I had to return to "real" life, I was helping to manage the barricade details and providing the media teams that wanted interviews with security details for their safety.

{BLM Seattle reached out to MSNBC and NPR in the hopes of using them to correct FOX's narrative. MSNBC maintained radio silence and never responded to us. NPR specifically told us they couldn't report on it honestly without damaging the movement's credibility because they'd discovered (accurately) that there were direct ties between BLM leadership and gang activity, and they'd have to report all of it if they were going to report any. Silence, NPR said, was the best support they could offer us. We just assumed the same was true of MSNBC and quit trying. In spite of understanding, it frustrated me. There was no voice for BLM or objective reporting on what was going on inside those barricades during and after when the badges abandoned the precinct. The local FOXNews station showed up once to interview us and report the experience. After their initial local report aired (a report that was very moderate and deviated from the rest of FOX's narrative), none of the anchors with whom we'd originally spoken would return our calls, and their organization only sent in drones to collect video from above or outside while the local station's reports drastically shifted away from the interviews they'd gotten.

{As a fellow player OoC, I appreciate deeply that you took the time to shout out the bullsh*t reporting that happened about BLM. It warmed my heart to know that people know better.}

Very, very interesting. United Federation is bad, all hail East Lebatuck!

Delta Vega IV, Free market buisnesses, and Arclandia

Arclandia wrote:That actually is precisely our assertion. Even silence can be implied complicity in a way. As no person is capable of being without bias in their observations, they are incapable of making a choice about writing those observations objectively. It then doesn't matter who owns the syndicate or publication when it comes to bias. A government can no more regulate bias than it can regulate belief. A government can regulate speech and expression, but it cannot regulate hidden, intangible thought. Trying to legislate bias out of authorship is like trying to regulate form out of art.

Just the act of selecting the few "news" of the hundreds happenings at the same time it's an editorial choice by its own.

Even more, if you can contrast several media, specially of your own country with others you can notice more clearly the gaps.

And as it happens it nature, there are silences that speaks volumes.

(OOC Sorry It's very odd, I was trying to put an example with the reporting of the Syrian civil war but the message system keeps tagging it with inappropriate words and seriously I was totally at lost of what was the problem so I deleted it).

Free market buisnesses and Arclandia

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New jacobland

United states of michelus wrote:Who would like to join Real Conservative Region, a place where conservatives can gather and discuss freely

As a liberal socialist, no.

Free market buisnesses and Sicilianzo

United states of michelus wrote:Who would like to join Real Conservative Region, a place where conservatives can gather and discuss freely

Hmm, you know what? Sure, why not. I'll send a puppet over.

Demonos and Free market buisnesses

United states of michelus wrote:Snip

See what it says on the Laz region page: No Recruitment or Spam Please!

Treadwellia and Free market buisnesses

The last batch of PkV-21s were delivered today. This marks the completion of the historic FRCP-Ashoy Arms Deal which was signed almost 6 months ago. Ahan Shetty expressed gratitude and thanked Cossack Peoples and WURCo. for their corporation in strengthening Ashoy-FRCP relations. The new military equipment is set to take Ashoyian Armed Forces to new heights and will play a vital role in safeguarding the sovereign nation's borders and in maintaining peace and stability in its rather unstable neighborhood. We would also like to thank Chairman Vadimir Bezukhov of Cossack Peoples for his support in making this Arms Deal a success. Ashoy looks forward to a healthy relationship with FRCP and its people. Thank You!

Demonos, Cossack Peoples, Dernel, Free market buisnesses, and 1 otherPractical

Free market buisnesses wrote:still forced unpaid labor though!

Technically yes because chattel slavery means your children are born into slavery as well. It means there was a "creation" of a race of people who were deemed to be only worthy of being slaves. Hence why some people will say that race is a made up construct.

Delta Vega IV, Free market buisnesses, and Practical

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Practical

Guiness Freaks wrote:Technically yes because chattel slavery means your children are born into slavery as well. It means there was a "creation" of a race of people who were deemed to be only worthy of being slaves. Hence why some people will say that race is a made up construct.

The race issue is not inherent in chattel slavery. That only popped up in the united states due to the obvious physical differences between Africans and Europeans. In the rest of the world tho slaves oftentimes had similar skin tones to there masters, so the racial issue didnt spring up in those places.

Aigania, Free market buisnesses, and Practical

And thus begins the long grind of ridding my nation of the Blackmarket that basically takes up 50% of my entire economy :-|

Free market buisnesses, Practical, and Divine egypt

Hraban wrote:And thus begins the long grind of ridding my nation of the Blackmarket that basically takes up 50% of my entire economy :-|

But..but why tho? I like having a huge black market personally.

Delta Vega IV, Free market buisnesses, Practical, and Comasas

"Remember, you can't have illegal human trafficking on the Black Market if owning and selling slaves is legal!" - Me, 2021, trying to get rid of the Black Market.

Free market buisnesses and Practical

New vedan wrote:But..but why tho? I like having a huge black market personally.

Laz ranks internationally in the black market.

Free market buisnesses and Practical

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