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Socialitus wrote:How does my nation become socialist? I forgot to make it a non-republic and I would be wishing for a socialist state

Just wait, solve issues prohibiting capitalism and you'll become one

Liberated polinesia

Its more fun that way!

Aj empire wrote:Even if a revolution comes here, it would be a right wing dictatorship.

Depends on how or where the revolution starts and who leads it. We must not forget that communists always retained a strong presence here. The communists were one of the most important factors behind Indian independence, Bhagat Singh and his HSRA, the Telangana Rebellion and the 1946 Naval Revolt are some of the many examples. After the partition communists in both India and Pakistan(primarily East Pakistan) played an important role. The CPI(M) ruled West Bengal and Tripura and continues to rule Kerala(which is imo the best state in India).

The communist parties are still strong compared to other countries and there is discontent among the working class, especially the farmers. After all, 250 million people took part in the All-India Strike, so I would say that with proper leadership there could be a socialist revolution in India, and in turn across the whole subcontinent.

Aj empire, Liberated polinesia, and Pelatepe

Assya wrote:snip

But we must not forget that those 250 million workers weren't communists or socialist. And you are seeing it from different perspective, we are losing our presence here day by day, we have just kerala left, even tripura has been lost😒

Assya

Aj empire wrote:But we must not forget that those 250 million workers weren't communists or socialist. And you are seeing it from different perspective, we are losing our presence here day by day, we have just kerala left, even tripura has been lost😒

Well if India goes fascist all the more reason for China to come "liberate" it in classical USA fashion.

First republic of cyrus

[nation]你好@Chinese[ Soviet Federative Republic

Liberated polinesia

regarding this "cold war standoff" the war has reached, we do have a negotiator on thier side who may get them to see the benifits of ending this peacefully and properly with a mutal agreement to stand down.

Aj empire

funny thing though when I was speaking to the rebel leader (Irl as we are friends IRL) I said how I viewed conflicts as almost a game of chess, so thier smart idea was to say they view it as checkers, any ideas on how I must explain this to them?

Aj empire

Anasychkinark wrote:snip

"Conflict is the trade of kings" - John Dryden

Aj empire wrote:snip

Those 250 million workers may not have been communists or socialists(or not all of them). But neither were most workers in countries where revolutions happened. This was the case during the Russian Revolution as well. Communists, the vanguard of the masses, must lead the revolution and seize power and then earn the workers trust. Also as a Bangladeshi communist I have keen interest in politics of India, and the subcontinent in general.

Aj empire and European union of marxist republics

we have created a blockade on the rebels therefore cutting off any supplies, and we have also cut thier COMS so they can't contact any more recruits

Aj empire, Liberated polinesia, and Novaya rsfsr

European union of marxist republics

We need to seize the World Assembly and liberate nationstates from Fascism, capitaöism and oppression

European union of marxist republics wrote:We need to seize the World Assembly and liberate nationstates from Fascism, capitaöism and oppression

That is an impossible idea. A wonderful one, but impossible.

Aj empire and European union of marxist republics

Seize the means of World Assembly! ☭

Anasychkinark and European union of marxist republics

Anasychkinark wrote:we have created a blockade on the rebels therefore cutting off any supplies, and we have also cut thier COMS so they can't contact any more recruits

regarding this it seems the rebels aren't very happy about that, they may retaliate

Aj empire

Post self-deleted by Gloucester City.

Aj empire wrote:Seize the means of World Assembly! ☭

The WA is, imo, one of the most undemocratic institution in NS (regarding the fact, that delegates votes weight as much as their region has members, thus practically doubling those votes) and simply another instrument of oppression (since WA-membership forces a nation to act in the way of any WA decision and changing stats of said nation accordingly without any option to deny this - reminds me of the 'love it or leave it' policy of the McCarthy era) of nations in favour of a few 'big players'; same goes for the 'security council', where (same system) nations or regions are commended or condemmed on the behalf and will of practically a few 'delegates'.
I´d say, we all should boycott the WA, and ignore the puny little games of fascists and capitalists as what they are : a camouflage of the oppression of free nations.

Novaya rsfsr and European union of marxist republics

Far out wrote:Le snip

That's actually a genuine idea.

European union of marxist republics

Far out wrote:The WA is, imo, one of the most undemocratic institution in NS (regarding the fact, that delegates votes weight as much as their region has members, thus practically doubling those votes) and simply another instrument of oppression (since WA-membership forces a nation to act in the way of any WA decision and changing stats of said nation accordingly without any option to deny this - reminds me of the 'love it or leave it' policy of the McCarthy era) of nations in favour of a few 'big players'; same goes for the 'security council', where (same system) nations or regions are commended or condemmed on the behalf and will of practically a few 'delegates'.
I´d say, we all should boycott the WA, and ignore the puny little games of fascists and capitalists as what they are : a camouflage of the oppression of free nations.

We should boycott it and form a new institution with all progressive and revolutionary regions in nation states

Hey i got a new topic to debate, should we boycott UN too?(bcs it's biased too for non permanent members)

Guys we must unite. We, who see what is going on and to not fight with the ones who are still sleeping. Hate is bad. The unity is the power. Let's show them this time! (some little slav quote there)

Anasychkinark wrote:Guys we must unite. We, who see what is going on and to not fight with the ones who are still sleeping. Hate is bad. The unity is the power. Let's show them this time! (some little slav quote there)

and yes I may randomly post quotes I know and think are good to hear

Aj empire

We need a new debate topic! Oh yeah got one, what are the flaws according to you that led USSR to lose cold war(except Gorbachev)?

Aj empire wrote:We need a new debate topic! Oh yeah got one, what are the flaws according to you that led USSR to lose cold war(except Gorbachev)?

too much focus on mass production of things untested too fast, and the cutting of safety standards often during those times

Liberated polinesia

Aj empire wrote:We need a new debate topic! Oh yeah got one, what are the flaws according to you that led USSR to lose cold war(except Gorbachev)?

The country, while moving away from full dictatorship, failed to fully eliminate the bureaucracy. They failed to raise the standard of living for people in the USSR and its satellites, so when Capitalism began creeping back in, they had nothing to show for repelling it, so the "communist" ideology began to crumble. However, once the USSR did fall, Russian people simply found themselves having to work even harder to just maintain the lifestyle they already had. It only became worse, except for the forming Russian Oligarchy.

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