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Biden is controlled by an elitist party. What the hell do you expect. Part of our problem is we must choose between Hell and Hell. Our system is how the Donkeys and Elephants maintain control, granting clout to some while denying it to others. This ensures they maintain a duopoly on power, and preventing true democracy and enslaving the people to political instability.
And do not let the AP fool you into thinking that issue has been put to bed, and that a refusal to evaluate evidence is the same thing as there being none.
Vis a vis the Hillary defense.
From the hill down to local AG's, and a few investigative journalists, there is a lot of information being collated from research and interviews that naturally hits a 50/50 senate, progressive media, DOJ, and presidential firewall of inaction and obfuscation.
Investigators patiently work and wait to take advantage of a changing political landscape that the midterm elections and eventual executive flip in 2024 will bring.
Biden was able to tap into the traditional Democrat graveyard vote that had eluded Ms Clinton.
He was. And anyone who genuinely thinks that he was not is a moron.
so your calling Most of the Active Posters on this Board a Moron.
Octal does that Violate your Rules ?
"Anyone who disagrees with me, regardless of valid concerns is a moron."
My, how very tolerant!
Divided Wastelands of America and Informed consent
Post self-deleted by Informed consent.
The TV is not very gracious with its detractors, and many of its disciples are similarly prickly.
Set the glaringly faulty mechanics aside for a moment and just focus on the wholly unqualified statement made by the Left that 2020 was the most secure election in American history.
Did politicians and news media shop and compare 2016, 2012, and 2008 statistics to base that narrative on?
No.
If they had, would those stats bear out their claim that elections have been getting more secure as time goes by instead of less?
No.
So in light of that erroneous and/or false statement, why is it unreasonable to question the rest of it?
I will never understand how a country partly founded on the right to question authority circled back around to a standard of silent obedience.
I'm not calling anyone a moron. I don't know if anyone genuinely believes the Big Lie. Trump himself certainly does not. A lot of people who post nonsense do not actually believe it but are merely trolling others and trying to own the libs.
The whole point is that there are no "valid concerns". There are only discredited conspiracy theories. Just as there are no "valid concerns" about "lizard people", "microchips in vaccines" etc. Sorry, but if someone actually believes that Hugo Chavez stole the US election 7 years after his death, I can't think of any kind words to describe that.
That statement was made not by the Left but by Trump's own appointee (whom at some point Trump even considered as Acting Secretary of Homeland Security).
No one ever discredited anything, because a full hearing was never allowed.
Progressive institution put up the road blocks and did its usual "These are not the droids you are looking for." routine that leaves reasonable doubt hanging in the air that no one is supposed to notice.
If you are good with that, fine, but you do not get to make that call for anyone else.
Divided Wastelands of America and The anarcho-capitalist lands of kool-aid
I Do Genuinly believe their is, was, and always will be Election Fraud.
I think 2020 was rigged in favor of Biden.
Just as in 2012 in favor of Obama
2000 In favor of Bush
1968 In favor of Johnson
1960 In favor of Kennedy
I think its possibe the 1936 or 1940 elections where rigged in favor of Roosevelt.
Can we please end this fraud debate. Until I see hard evidence, I will never believe an election was rigged. If it was rigged, then where is the proof. No proof equals no fraud, and that means people legitimately elected a hellhole.
What do you mean "never allowed"?! A full hearing was never either allowed or not allowed because nobody ever requested one. There were numerous hearings in multiple courts on various related issues, but whenever judges asked, "Do you allege fraud?", Trump's lawyers (including Rudy) always answered 'No'. I know because I actually read the transcripts. And yes, specific claims were discredited. E.g. there was a famous complaint about election workers covering up windows in order to prevent people in the hallway from photographing private information on envelopes with mail ballots. However when the judge asked Trump's lawyer whether there were Republican observers in the room (rather than in the hallway and unable to see through covered up windows), he sheepishly replied that there was a "non-zero" number. In other words, he admitted in court that the complaint was total BS. Another judge explained in a long ruling (which I read) that another complaint from Republican observes that election workers would not answer their objections to what they were doing and would instead look hostile would not have happened if only those observers had bothered to attend orientation offered to observers in the days before the election at which standard operating procedures of election workers (that they were actually following) were explained along with the rule that the observers were not to talk to election workers but only to supervisors. Etc. etc. etc.
You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts. And you are absolutely wrong on the facts. But just out of curiosity, could you please explain how the 1968 election was rigged in favor of Johnson who was not even on the ballot?
I also acknowledge Trump lost his elections. He was already an unpopular candidate in 2016, losing by about 3 million votes, but won due to how the electoral college system works. In 2020, he lost by around 5-7 million. Trump had four years to prove to the public he had what it took to lead the USA, and he failed as a leader. The majority of Americans saw that, and voted against him, this time with the electoral college also swinging into their favor. The whole electoral college should be abolished frankly. Also almost every (if not all) audits performed to inspect for election fraud have either came up negative, or they came up positive, except with the voter fraud in question being caused (very) often by pro-Republican voters.
I manage to make both my right-leaning, and left-leaning, friends mad by saying this, but sometimes I think it was Trump's election to lose. In the grand scheme of things, he didn't lose by much of the reported total votes (not gonna get into election fraud, that's not relative to my point). But he made one big mistake:
He didn't take the pandemic seriously.
Regardless of your own stance on the coronavirus, imagine if you will, that he had taken it seriously. He was keeping his base, no matter what, he had them, but he could've won over people who were sitting on the fence, and the pandemic response was their primary sticking point. Not only would more of his own supporters have been alive to vote for him, but centrists and moderates might've swung towards an incumbent. Instead, he alienated pretty much the entire democrat voting bloc (who he didn't have anyway, but that really cemented them to the left), as well as adherents of the medical/scientific community, and even some of the conservative base.
I could definitely be wrong, and he didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell, but it's fun to theorize.
Yes. He was preparing to run on the economy, and he had a decent shot based on that (although he was overconfident since he was judging the economy by the stock market and thus had a rosier picture than most voters). When the pandemic started, for way too long he just saw it as a distraction threatening to tank the stock market instead of the new dominant issue and an opportunity to display presidential leadership and actually accomplish something important. Instead he first ridiculously denied the problem (forgetting that while his creditors could have been - and were! - talked out of foreclosing on him, the virus could not be talked out of infecting people) and then started brainfarting on live TV about drinking bleach, persuading too many Republican-leaning white educated women in the suburbs of Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta and Phoenix that he was not up to the task of being president (which, incidentally, where he lost the Electoral College - contrary to the myth of officials in "black" cities of Philadelphia and Detroit stealing the election from him, Trump actually did better in both cities in 2020 than in 2016, but did much worse in their white suburbs, as anybody can easily verify by looking at county-level 2016 and 2020 vote in PA and MI).
Octal and Casa sierra
That's a Two Way Street. and I think you have No Facts. also I mistook Johnson for Nixon.
JOE BIDEN IS SO-CALLED “PRESIDENT UNITED STATES.” THOUGH HE IS NO, HOW YOU SAY, GREAT FATHER FIGURE LIKE BIG DADDY MISTER DONALD BEFORE HIM OR AMERICAN ICON HOMER SAMSON. JOSEPH IS NOT SMOKING CUBAN CIGAR WHILE HE WRESTLE WITH FEISTY WIFE. JOSEPH IS NOT CRASHING EXPENSIVE VEHICLE INTO TERRORIST FORCES WHILE PLAYING BLACKJACK WITH BALD EAGLE. JOSEPH IS NOT PLAYING WITH LITTLE SON OR DAUGHTER, THROWING BALL SIGNED BY BRAD PITT, PLAYING TOSS, SUCH THINGS AS THIS. NO EXPRESSING AMERICAN VALUES. WE KNOW THIS VERY WELL. I GO TO AMERICA. I SAY TO MAN, “MAN, WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE OIL?” MAN SAY, “OH. JOE BIDEN DRINK ALL GASOLINE. GAS NOW FOUR DOLLARS.” IT MAKES US SAD. AND YES, WE CAN CONFIRM, ELECTION WAS RIGGED LIKE BOXING MATCH PROMOTED BY MISCHIEVOUS MAFIA MAN. WE GO TO AMERICA, ASK ALL THE CITIZENS, “VOTE FOR JOE?” THEY SAY “NO, HE DRINK OIL.” LOOK WHAT HAPPEN ANYWAY. HE GOES INTO WHITE HOUSE AND DRINKS OIL. JOE BIDEN!!! STOP!!!
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