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The isles of great britain and ireland wrote:It's so refreshing to see a pro-capitalist who actually understands what communism is rather than coming out with the knee-jer "durr communism bad because Stalin."

By the way, it's me again Divine egypt. This is yet another nation of mine. :P

Are you also one of those?

The isles of great britain and ireland wrote:<<< Gives government money to the automobile manufacturers. "This'll give employment a boost" says I.

Result: car-manufacturing sector grows but unemployment gets worse.

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Probably spent it on robots.

Aigania wrote:As one of the most successful capitalist economist said "In the Long Run We Are All Dead". And that it is not a problem it is a feature. The core problem of the capitalist economies is that they work mainly by sweeping the problems under the rug, that nice label of externalities.
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Capitalism has already condemned us. The question is if we can limit the damage and rebuild afterwards.

So you also think WW4 will occur due to unemployment approaching 100% from automation?

Hraban wrote:What concerns me the about a stateless society would be lack of order. I believe that specialisation is the very essence of what makes a civilisation. I am also not too fond of letting technology develop without restriction, Automation for example, I am not afraid of it or afraid of it stealing jobs, but I believe that products made entirely by workers are special and unique. I am also against the rampant materialism that seems to be spreading like a wildfire, so much so that I have been trying to join a monastery for two years now but I can't really find one that isn't Catholic. A life of simplicity and manual labour is my ideal life, without the threat of being arrested for not paying taxes and not even needing money at all.

Yes, I know some of the things I said contradict each other, that's because I am not against a stateless and classless society. I am simply concerned about enforcement of basic laws like "don't kill other people", there will always be people seeking to harm others, and I do believe that there should be some way of enforcing basic laws similar to example I gave, and I do believe that people should be the ones to do that.

And I only support colonising other Planets because it just cool, and because the Earth will die at some point no matter what we do and I want humanity to still exist when it happens. We, as a species, might have been born here but I don't think we should die here.

I'm pretty sure that's just a specific version of communism. A communist economy and a government could coexist, just like with capitalism. Also, there will always be a market for hand crafted goods, no matter how much automation has occurred, because of people you.

Cianlandia wrote:To jump in, there are many non Catholic monastic orders. Try Buddhist or Hindu ones. (The Advaita Vedanta school of Hindu philosophy has a number of monastic communities spread throughout my home state of California, one is in the next neighborhood over from myself.)
Also with stateless societies, lack of hierarchy =/= lack of order. I think that might be a logical fallacy, as hierarchy and order are not related. You can have "order" which is hard to define, with or without a hierarchy or state.

Personally, I think that some form of state forming is inevitable. Stuff like people not killing each other is something most of us want, and a collective effort to prevent theft and killing is logical. States are formed out of formalized societal contracts.

Aigania, New vedan, Guiness Freaks, Hraban, and 2 othersThe isles of great britain and ireland, and DaPiFanatic

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