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The glorious state of corbyn

Aussandries wrote:well considering the anti-semitism scandal coincided with in the view of unbiased reporters a pretty much equally bad anti-islam scandal in the Conservative party I don't think that's a fair assessment...

Also please please tell me you're not about to start praising the wonders of trickle-down economics? Because it has been proven time and time again to be absolute tosh.

How was the islamaphobia scandal even vaguely on the same level, in your view?

I don't think that it's a solution to all issues, but as long as the money doesn't go to rich people from exploitation of the poor it's objectively good for society. If that weren't the case, then a country would be judged by its poorest citizen.

The glorious state of corbyn

The belacian states wrote:well said
Corbyn’s terrorist links were most probably overstated by the right wing press; I believe he talked with them in order to try and facilitate peace arrangements (whether that’s acceptable or not is up for debate), he obviously doesn’t and didn’t endorse terrorism.

The China/Pelosi situation is interesting. I think it’s not very clever of her to visit at this time because it gives more legitimacy to Taiwan. As much as I support Taiwan’s independence and sovereignty, it angers China at a time where that is really not needed given other global crises, and also means that if China do invade Taiwan, there is now, I feel, more pressure on the US to act strongly.

Don’t know if that’s particularly insightful but my thoughts having seen the surface of the situation

Obviously it's not like he's a superfan of bombing, but I mean he's pretty bad. https://www.theweek.co.uk/100943/fact-check-is-jeremy-corbyn-a-terrorist-sympathiser I think this article is decent.

I agree RE Taiwan. I think she could've even done the visit but more sensitively.

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The glorious state of corbyn

Ostrovskiy wrote:Maths, Physics, Chemistries, Biologies, Zoologies, Astronomies.

Maths = "the abstract science of number, quantity, and space, either as abstract concepts ( pure mathematics ), or as applied to other disciplines such as physics and engineering"
These are multiple things

Ostrovskiy wrote:The US is currently not fighting Russia and has no plans to do so unless the situation in Ukraine gets especially dire (it's not), or Russia invades the Baltics (probably not, but with Putin in charge, who knows?)

I'm well aware of this, as i specialise in strategic studies ;) it was a simplification, because, short of having troops on the ground, america is as close to being in a war with russia as you can be. In fact, many analysts have taken it as pretty much a given that their will be some american special forces, un-uniformed, already on the ground in Ukraine...

The belacian states and Ostrovskiy

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:How was the islamaphobia scandal even vaguely on the same level, in your view?

I don't think that it's a solution to all issues, but as long as the money doesn't go to rich people from exploitation of the poor it's objectively good for society. If that weren't the case, then a country would be judged by its poorest citizen.

I think a country should be judged on it's bottom 90% of citizens.

And Islamophobia in the conservative party is almost as entrenched as anti-semitism in the labour party - even before the recent investigation into internalised anti-Semitism in the party came up negative

Orennica, The belacian states, and Ostrovskiy

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:Obviously it's not like he's a superfan of bombing, but I mean he's pretty bad. https://www.theweek.co.uk/100943/fact-check-is-jeremy-corbyn-a-terrorist-sympathiser I think this article is decent.

I agree RE Taiwan. I think she could've even done the visit but more sensitively.

also i think that the accusations of Corbyn being a terrorist, or even terrorist sympathiser, are less serious than people apparently believe. There are plenty of politicians with ties through negotiation with horrendous groups/regimes etc. He is probably slightly more likely to view the terrorists(or freedom fighters depending on who wins in the end) who align with his personal feelings on Palestine and Northern Ireland less negatively than one might expect, but again this is hardly that notable. It is perfectly acceptable to agree with an ideal without agreeing with the methods used by a group.

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The belacian states

Ostrovskiy wrote:Maths, Physics, Chemistries, Biologies, Zoologies, Astronomies.

Mathematics just like Politics and Physics

Ostrovskiy wrote:There is no "right". Language changes over time, and devolves into different dialects. Maths is right for you, not for us.

I agree tbf, I just like making fun of American English personally

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The belacian states

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:Obviously it's not like he's a superfan of bombing, but I mean he's pretty bad. https://www.theweek.co.uk/100943/fact-check-is-jeremy-corbyn-a-terrorist-sympathiser I think this article is decent.

I agree RE Taiwan. I think she could've even done the visit but more sensitively.

Decent article. I think regarding the IRA, Corbyn is correct to say that the British Army are partly responsible for the Troubles ("academic researcher Luke Davies has defended Corbyn, saying that many critics may be conflating the party leader’s views on British rule in Northern Ireland with sympathy for the IRA. Despite having frequently condemned “all bombing’ carried out by the IRA, he has “also been insistent on acknowledging the joint responsibility of the British Army for the Troubles”, Davies writes in an article on Medium"). War and other armed conflicts are almost never black and white, atrocities are almost always committed on both sides.

Also Corbyn has always been a committed pacifist, he's founded something called the Peace and Justice Project, so it wouldn't make sense for him to be supportive of terrorism. I think he believes that in order to find a peaceful solution to conflict, they have to talk to militant and terrorist organisations like Hamas. Again, whether that is right is another debate entirely, but his intentions have always been to facilitate a peace arrangement. (The use of "friends" in regards to Hamas and Hezbollah was a bit questionable but as he said in a later interview he doesn't agree with what they do.)

I think what has often happened with Corbyn is that words or phrases have been taken out of context and used to greatly exaggerate a view or story about him. The right wing press attacked him mercilessly throughout his tenure as LOTO (the Daily Mail even tried to discredit him for sleeping on a train lmao - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7617707/Jeremy-Corbyn-caught-taking-nap-train-rest-country-cheered-England.html).

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The belacian states

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:How was the islamaphobia scandal even vaguely on the same level, in your view?

I don't think that it's a solution to all issues, but as long as the money doesn't go to rich people from exploitation of the poor it's objectively good for society. If that weren't the case, then a country would be judged by its poorest citizen.

Aussandries wrote:I think a country should be judged on it's bottom 90% of citizens...

I agree, a country should be judged on how it treats its poorest citizens (as I think one of the questions when you make a new nation here on NS states). If money is going to rich people and not to the poor, that is not good for society; in fact I'd argue it's not good for the economy either.

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The belacian states

Aussandries wrote:I'm well aware of this, as i specialise in strategic studies ;) it was a simplification, because, short of having troops on the ground, america is as close to being in a war with russia as you can be. In fact, many analysts have taken it as pretty much a given that their will be some american special forces, un-uniformed, already on the ground in Ukraine...

What is strategic studies like?

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The belacian states

Ostrovskiy wrote:The US is currently not fighting Russia and has no plans to do so unless the situation in Ukraine gets especially dire (it's not), or Russia invades the Baltics (probably not, but with Putin in charge, who knows?)

That's the other thing, if the US are distracted by China-Taiwan, Putin may feel emboldened to attack the Baltic states (although surely he'll want to finish the war in Ukraine first).

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The belacian states

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:Maths = "the abstract science of number, quantity, and space, either as abstract concepts ( pure mathematics ), or as applied to other disciplines such as physics and engineering"
These are multiple things

"the abstract science" is one thing tbf

The belacian states wrote:What is strategic studies like?

I can't talk for at every uni? But at Exeter we have the Strategic Studies Institute (SSI), which is one of the world's leading bodies on Strategy. We get speakers coming in who are currently advising policy in Ukraine it's literally mental

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The belacian states

Aussandries wrote:I can't talk for at every uni? But at Exeter we have the Strategic Studies Institute (SSI), which is one of the world's leading bodies on Strategy. We get speakers coming in who are currently advising policy in Ukraine it's literally mental

woah that’s so cool! so strategic studies is about strategy stuff throughout the world of politics?

Aussandries and Ostrovskiy

The belacian states wrote:woah that’s so cool! so strategic studies is about strategy stuff throughout the world of politics?

depends which modules you do - the one i did last year was very much focussed on the domains of warfare, with a sh*t tonne of case studies - we studied everything from the Peloponnesian war up to iraq and afghanistan

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The belacian states

Aussandries wrote:depends which modules you do - the one i did last year was very much focussed on the domains of warfare, with a sh*t tonne of case studies - we studied everything from the Peloponnesian war up to iraq and afghanistan

wow that’s cool, fe

Aussandries and Ostrovskiy

The belacian states wrote:That's the other thing, if the US are distracted by China-Taiwan, Putin may feel emboldened to attack the Baltic states (although surely he'll want to finish the war in Ukraine first).

The Russian army could barely take Ukraine. Putins cards are bad, and the only reason other players are scared of him is because he has an Ace of Nukes, if you would forgive my card example.

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Sad times, starting school today (which is bad enough), the school screwed the heck up. So, basically, I go to 2 (remote) schools. In one, you do your work synchronously, in the other asynchronously. In the asynchronous one, I'm taking 2 classes. However, my other school also gave me those 2 classes. And to make things worse, one of my electives was unavailable, so they gave me Spanish 2. I have never done Spanish 1.

Orennica and The belacian states

Ostrovskiy wrote:The Russian army could barely take Ukraine. Putins cards are bad, and the only reason other players are scared of him is because he has an Ace of Nukes, if you would forgive my card example.

yeah and the nuke card is quite a big one... o'course, i'm not confident russia's soviet-era nukes have been maintained to a functional standpoint, but it's not a risk i'd even consider taking.

The belacian states, Ostrovskiy, and The glorious state of corbyn

Aussandries wrote:yeah and the nuke card is quite a big one... o'course, i'm not confident russia's soviet-era nukes have been maintained to a functional standpoint, but it's not a risk i'd even consider taking.

Of course, but Russia doesn't have the other military capacity to invade the Baltics, especially if it wants to keep up the war in Ukraine.

Aussandries and The belacian states

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:Yet you don't understand that it's actually "maths", curious :P

maths? WE AMERICAN NO LIKE NO MATHS OUT HERE EVEN MY TEACHERS CALL IT 7TH GRADE MATH NOT MATHS

The glorious state of corbyn

I sadly cannot respond to everything. In short:

- I don't think the Islamaphobia in the conservative party extends past reasonable criticism (at least from what I've seen, but I am, of course, open to change my mind!)
- The EHRC found labour "responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination" in regards to anti-semitism. I think that one is pretty clear cut!
- I can understand many of the points RE corbyn/terrorism, but for me they don't justify the kind of close connections he had, although I can understand how a reasonable view could be taken that they were reasonable connections.
- I put the judgement thing wrong. The point is that a country with more richer people is almost always going to be a better nation. Even relatively left wing nations that do very well are rich nations (see: nordic nations)
- Strategic studies sounds interesting!
- Britain good, America bad.

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The belacian states

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:I sadly cannot respond to everything. In short:

- I don't think the Islamaphobia in the conservative party extends past reasonable criticism (at least from what I've seen, but I am, of course, open to change my mind!)
- The EHRC found labour "responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination" in regards to anti-semitism. I think that one is pretty clear cut!
- I can understand many of the points RE corbyn/terrorism, but for me they don't justify the kind of close connections he had, although I can understand how a reasonable view could be taken that they were reasonable connections.
- I put the judgement thing wrong. The point is that a country with more richer people is almost always going to be a better nation. Even relatively left wing nations that do very well are rich nations (see: nordic nations)
- Strategic studies sounds interesting!
- Britain good, America bad.

Yh the other thing with Corbyn is he did all that as a backbencher MP and no one including himself ever expected him to become leader, and then suddenly all that stuff was dragged up

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The glorious state of corbyn

The belacian states wrote:Yh the other thing with Corbyn is he did all that as a backbencher MP and no one including himself ever expected him to become leader, and then suddenly all that stuff was dragged up

Yeah, but a lot of the stuff lots of politicians are dragged for hapenned before their time in any office. See:

- Boris infidelity
- Kier doing a sh*t job in CPS (even though that's made up daily mail content)
- Michael Gove cocaine
- David Cameron x pig mouth

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The belacian states

The glorious state of corbyn wrote:I sadly cannot respond to everything. In short:

- I don't think the Islamaphobia in the conservative party extends past reasonable criticism (at least from what I've seen, but I am, of course, open to change my mind!)
- The EHRC found labour "responsible for unlawful acts of harassment and discrimination" in regards to anti-semitism. I think that one is pretty clear cut!
- I can understand many of the points RE corbyn/terrorism, but for me they don't justify the kind of close connections he had, although I can understand how a reasonable view could be taken that they were reasonable connections.
- I put the judgement thing wrong. The point is that a country with more richer people is almost always going to be a better nation. Even relatively left wing nations that do very well are rich nations (see: nordic nations)
- Strategic studies sounds interesting!
- Britain good, America bad.

on the third-to-last point, obviously ‘better’ is very subjective, but i agree that all successful countries atm have fairly high numbers of richer people. Still it doesn’t always work that way, see USA - biggest GDP but I would argue that despite their incredible wealth and amount of wealthy people, they are not as successful (or good) a society as the Nordic countries for instance.

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