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Mexicalia union wrote:Also just curious, I wonder why the TLA almost always votes against the grain in the Security Council (not that I mind)

I don't Endorse or Commend anyone that is less than "Good" in both Civil and Political Rights. That weeds out some.

In regards to your larger speech, I also identify on the centre-left, but very radically progressive and libertarian.

Translation: all power can be abused, and economic power in a capitalist society is the easiest to abuse.

Perhaps you, like myself, cannot really call ourselves tolerant of capitalism, but advocating a truly free market. Because the corporate world of international capitalism is anything BUT a free economy.

Das pardgulew, Sauros, Equalitopia, Athenianous, and 2 othersSoviet Federation of Eurasia, and Mexicalia union

Union of eurasian states

I got the issue where a government official was caught doing something inappropriate in public. I can either fire him, stone him, or let him get off with no punishments. What should I do? (Other than stone him I’m not doing that)

Union of eurasian states wrote:I got the issue where a government official was caught doing something inappropriate in public. I can either fire him, stone him, or let him get off with no punishments. What should I do? (Other than stone him I’m not doing that)

I'd fire him.

Sauros and Michigan and illinois

throw rock

Asturies-Llion, Eloren, Grod Island, Argentigrad, and 10 othersNew samon, Das pardgulew, Sauros, Upper bolta, Therronja, New Flamington, Greater europe and surroundings, Croatian ssr, Empathiana, and Mexicalia union

Announcement from the Ministry of Recruitment

Pop tracker update. It's not gonna be as upbeat as last time.

The tracker went up from 506 to 507 last week. We don't suck at math at this point to know whether it's a positive or negative change.
For the WA members, it went down from 239 to 237.

That's it. Stay tuned for next week.

Unity in Diversity,
Minister of Recruitment Ghillemear

Asturies-Llion, Llorens, South Miruva, Alangrad, and 8 othersGrod Island, Podria, New samon, Das pardgulew, Soviet catgirls, Croatian ssr, Reddtopiaa, and Acrota

Union of eurasian states

Should I let a robot be my federal judge?

Mexicalia union

Union of eurasian states wrote:Should I let a robot be my federal judge?

Automate everything including breathing

Das pardgulew

Union of eurasian states

Mexicalia union wrote:Automate everything including breathing

Holy crap you were right it just made a ton of things go up and bad things go down

Das pardgulew, Sauros, Empathiana, and Mexicalia union

Dear Leftist Assembly,
Ok so sorry i’m new here, how do we gain influence and how does role play work?

Sincerely,
Your Friends at the Commonwealth of Coligo

Regional defence council of aragon

Asturies-Llion wrote:Does it have potential for sparkling a revolutionary process? Not by itself alone,

Union of eurasian states wrote:In my opinion unions don’t really have enough power or organization to really start a revolution

The anarchist trade unions in Spain beg to differ.

Das pardgulew, Sauros, Soviet catgirls, Equalitopia, and 1 otherTherronja

Helionyx wrote:I don't Endorse or Commend anyone that is less than "Good" in both Civil and Political Rights. That weeds out some.

In regards to your larger speech, I also identify on the centre-left, but very radically progressive and libertarian.

Translation: all power can be abused, and economic power in a capitalist society is the easiest to abuse.

Perhaps you, like myself, cannot really call ourselves tolerant of capitalism, but advocating a truly free market. Because the corporate world of international capitalism is anything BUT a free economy.

So, if I get this correctly, what you're arguing is that capitalism as it is right now isn't a "free market". If we consider the fact that Elon Musk almost has the powers of a god when it comes to cryptocurrency/the economy, and that small businesses are struggling to survive the competition from megacorporations, that's a pretty solid take. This brings up another interesting question: what is a "free market" really? Could a socialist economy be considered a "free market" even if everything is state owned?

Das pardgulew and Helionyx

Bring back tcr party

remember the split between TCB and TCR which eventually resulted in TLA and TCB being different regions? that was a big mistake, we should merge with TCB and bring back TCR.

Mexican communists, Alangrad, Sauros, Therronja, and 1 otherNew Flamington

Union of eurasian states

Regional defence council of aragon wrote:The anarchist trade unions in Spain beg to differ.

I don’t remember it being trade unions that started and lead the Spanish revolution, there were many socialist parties and militias that lead the revolution, trade unions were only in charge of the economy

Helionyx

Sauros wrote:So, if I get this correctly, what you're arguing is that capitalism as it is right now isn't a "free market". If we consider the fact that Elon Musk almost has the powers of a god when it comes to cryptocurrency/the economy, and that small businesses are struggling to survive the competition from megacorporations, that's a pretty solid take. This brings up another interesting question: what is a "free market" really? Could a socialist economy be considered a "free market" even if everything is state owned?

Well. I don't view a state as much better than a corporation, so no, not that either.

The old expression comes to mind. "A public sector job has 10 people doing the work of one, a private sector job has one person doing the work of 10."

Different, but neither is good, we have to work towards a sustainable equilibrium between these extremes. That means a system that is inherently difficult to abuse, and doesn't depend on a whole lot of manual controls.

Such manual controls, or centralized planning, are the reason "communism didn't work" in the common vernacular. That's the weak link where corruption, stagnation, and the crippling weight of bureaucracy all kick into high gear.

Das pardgulew and Sauros

Regional defence council of aragon

Union of eurasian states wrote:I don’t remember it being trade unions that started and lead the Spanish revolution, there were many socialist parties and militias that lead the revolution, trade unions were only in charge of the economy

Trade Unions partook in administion, collectivization and formation of militias. The Anarachist trade unions: CNT and FIA, along with the socialist trade union: UGT had an active role in the revolution. Revolutionary Catalonia was practically controlled by trade unions.

Das pardgulew and Soviet Federation of Eurasia

Union of eurasian states

Regional defence council of aragon wrote:Trade Unions partook in administion, collectivization and formation of militias. The Anarachist trade unions: CNT and FIA, along with the socialist trade union: UGT had an active role in the revolution. Revolutionary Catalonia was practically controlled by trade unions.

The CNT wasn’t just a trade union, it played a large role in the revolution because it was literally part of the republican government and held ministries. The UGT also kept itself legal within Spain, it did not take part in the revolution and instead held a collaborative attitude with the dictatorship.

Union of eurasian states

Regional defence council of aragon wrote:Trade Unions partook in administion, collectivization and formation of militias. The Anarachist trade unions: CNT and FIA, along with the socialist trade union: UGT had an active role in the revolution. Revolutionary Catalonia was practically controlled by trade unions.

Also Catalonia was captured by both anarchist AND republics, and the anarchist never overthrew the Catalonian government or states, they just took control of the economy

Soviet catgirls

Regional defence council of aragon wrote:The anarchist trade unions in Spain beg to differ.

Revolutionary trade unions and soviets have been capable for revolutionary organization in the Ukrainian Free Territory and the early USSR, as well.

Regional defence council of aragon, Das pardgulew, Equalitopia, and Soviet Federation of Eurasia

Helionyx wrote:Well. I don't view a state as much better than a corporation, so no, not that either.

The old expression comes to mind. "A public sector job has 10 people doing the work of one, a private sector job has one person doing the work of 10."

Different, but neither is good, we have to work towards a sustainable equilibrium between these extremes. That means a system that is inherently difficult to abuse, and doesn't depend on a whole lot of manual controls.

Such manual controls, or centralized planning, are the reason "communism didn't work" in the common vernacular. That's the weak link where corruption, stagnation, and the crippling weight of bureaucracy all kick into high gear.

In that case, which system would you suggest? One where essential services are nationalized, and non-essentials are privatized? Or just a highly regulated privatized economy?

Helionyx

I agree. What do we need to do to make this happen?

I say we just shoot for a moneyless economy/society

Das pardgulew, Sauros, Therronja, Helionyx, and 1 otherEmpathiana

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Helionyx

Sauros wrote:In that case, which system would you suggest? One where essential services are nationalized, and non-essentials are privatized? Or just a highly regulated privatized economy?

The former is close to my beliefs. But I want to think less is more. Less regulations, more the strategic lack there of. A lack of systems to enable abuse, and the maintenance of those that prevent it.

And yes, the community (my libertarian preferred word for state) should care for the healthcare, education, and basic necessities of all citizens. That's just a benchmark, and I don't think it's unrealistic. That's what taxes should be for. If people wanna dream bigger? Don't stop them, but make it difficult for them to become abusive.

For instance, instead of regulating copyright....ditch it. Just eliminate it. If you lack the ambition to achieve in straight competition, or you lack the altruism to contribute to society - why should the people fund your monopoly? Evolving beyond currency is another practical way to make power difficult to harness. Direct democracy is another. There are many strategic policies, or the lack thereof, that can contribute to a free economy and a free society.

You can sum it up: make any form of power slippery and difficult to grasp by design.

Silverfish37, Das pardgulew, Sauros, Equalitopia, and 2 othersTherronja, and Mexicalia union

Helionyx wrote:The former is close to my beliefs. But I want to think less is more. Less regulations, more the strategic lack there of. A lack of systems to enable abuse, and the maintenance of those that prevent it.

And yes, the community (my libertarian preferred word for state) should care for the healthcare, education, and basic necessities of all citizens. That's just a benchmark, and I don't think it's unrealistic. That's what taxes should be for. If people wanna dream bigger? Don't stop them, but make it difficult for them to become abusive.

For instance, instead of regulating copyright....ditch it. Just eliminate it. If you lack the ambition to achieve in straight competition, or you lack the altruism to contribute to society - why should the people fund your monopoly? Evolving beyond currency is another practical way to make power difficult to harness. Direct democracy is another. There are many strategic policies, or the lack thereof, that can contribute to a free economy and a free society.

You can sum it up: make any form of power slippery and difficult to grasp by design.

Thank you for answering.

Helionyx

Sauros wrote:Thank you for answering.

I always enjoy such discussions, and hearing different ideas!

Sauros, Equalitopia, and Mexicalia union

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