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Canadian zeeland

While I do not want to disrupt the ongoing process of steel chairing, I... wrote a draft for a new constitution or something? idk

the Fifth Constitution of
The Great Experiment

Preamble
Whereas the Fourth Constitution of The Great Experiment enacted in November 2020 is exceedingly long, occasionally bureaucratic, and sometimes rather incomprehensible:

And whereas a simpler constitution is required for the relief of new and less-informed Great Experimenters:

Be the following Constitution enacted by the citizens of The Great Experiment.

    Section 1: Definitions
  1. In this Constitution, "assignable authorities" mean the Appearance, Border Control, Communications, Embassies, and Polls authorities; "TGE" means The Great Experiment; "RMB" means Regional Message Board; and "WA" means the World Assembly.

  2. A resident of TGE is any nation that resides in, and has not left, the region of The Great Experiment.

  3. A citizen of TGE is any resident thereof who has WA membership, or who does not have WA membership but has been granted citizenship as a result of a bill to that effect.

    Section 2: How a bill becomes a law

  4. Only a citizen of TGE may vote in any regional election or on any regional bill. Votes cast by non-citizens at the end of such a vote must not be counted.

  5. Any resident of TGE may propose a bill by posting a dispatch containing that bill's text on TGE's RMB, which must not be changed after its proposal except in line with Article 8. A bill shall only be voted on by citizens if it receives three likes from citizens within three days of its proposal and its dispatch has not been deleted; if multiple bills have received three likes, the bill that was proposed the earliest shall be voted or revoted on first.

  6. All bills eligible to be voted on under Article 5 must be put up to vote through a two-day poll on TGE's region page. Such a poll shall be given the title of the bill's dispatch and must contain a link to that dispatch, an option to vote for the bill, and an option to vote against the bill only.

  7. Bills to amend or replace this Constitution, grant residents citizenship, remove the President or any appointed regional officer from office, impose a password upon TGE, eject any resident of TGE other than the founder, or ban any resident of TGE other than the founder for a period of up to thirty days, require a two-thirds majority to pass. Bills to repeal this Constitution without a replacement require unanimity to pass. All other bills require a simple majority to pass.

  8. The Founder of TGE may veto a bill passed under Article 7 within two days of its passage by explicitly announcing on TGE's RMB that they have vetoed it. All such vetoes must include at least one explanation by the Founder of why they have vetoed the bill, as well as a copy of the vetoed proposal. Vetoed bills may be resubmitted, with alterations as necessary, at any time after they have been vetoed.

  9. All bills not vetoed in line with Article 8 are automatically enacted; such bills shall be stored in a dispatch which must be pinned to TGE's region page. No bill's dispatch may be deleted after its enactment.

    Section 3: Regional officials

  10. The nation of Holy Empire of Loaf is the Founder of TGE. The Founder shall have Executive authority and all assignable authorities, shall not be banned or ejected from TGE under any circumstances, and must further resolve any legislative disputes that may arise. If the Founder ceases to exist, their legal powers and responsibilities revert to the WA Delegate.

  11. The Founder of TGE may appoint any resident of TGE to a regional officer position not defined in this Constitution with at least one assignable authority for any duration. A resident so appointed shall lose their position if they cease to be a resident of TGE, resign, are dismissed, or are removed from office in line with Article 7.

  12. The WA Delegate of TGE is its President, and shall be elected once every six weeks starting from April 19th 2021 except as provided in Article 14. The WA Delegacy shall not have Executive authority nor any assignable authorities while Holy Empire of Loaf is in existence, but the elected President shall hold an appointed regional officer position entitled "President" with all assignable authorities. The WA Delegate shall vote on WA resolutions and approve proposals as they believe best serves the interests of TGE.

  13. At any point during a President's term, any citizen of TGE may announce their intention to stand at the next Presidential election on TGE's RMB, unless an intention to seek a third consecutive term as President can be sincerely inferred from such an announcement. Any citizen who makes such an announcement may retract it only by making a statement to that effect on TGE's RMB or ceasing to be a resident of TGE.

  14. If the President ceases to be a resident of TGE for more than five minutes, resigns, or is removed from office in line with Articles 7 or 16 before the end of their scheduled term, early elections for the Presidency shall be announced on TGE's RMB and scheduled for five days after that announcement; any citizen of TGE may announce their intention to stand at such early elections during those five days, and may retract it only under the circumstances detailed in Article 13.

  15. The procedures for how a Presidential election organised under Articles 12 or 14 is organised varies depending on how many citizens intend to stand, although the Founder shall break all ties in Presidential elections where this Article does not clarify how they are to be broken:

    1. if no citizens intend to stand, the incumbent shall remain (for an election organised under Article 12) or the Founder shall become (for an election organised under Article 14) President;

    2. if one citizen intends to stand, that citizen shall become President;

    3. if two citizens intend to stand for the Presidency, they shall run against each other in a two-day poll on TGE's region page, with the most voted-for citizen becoming President; and

    4. If three or more citizens intend to stand for the Presidency, they shall run amongst themselves in a two-day poll on TGE's region page, with the citizen obtaining a simple majority of votes becoming President; if no citizen obtains a simple majority, the two most voted-for citizens shall progress to a further one-day poll on TGE's region page to be organised as soon as possible, with the most voted-for citizen becoming President.

  16. A citizen of TGE without WA membership who is elected to the Presidency shall be automatically removed from office if they do not join the WA within one week of their election.

    Section 4: Final provisions

  17. This Constitution is TGE's highest legal document. No bill or action of a regional official may contradict it, and it may only be amended or repealed as outlined in Article 7.

  18. The Fourth Constitution of TGE and the Foreign Affairs Minister Act are null and void. This Article must not be read as requiring the Founder of TGE to dismiss the current Foreign Affairs Minister from their post.

  19. No poll organised under Articles 6 or 15 may be deleted under any circumstances by anybody other than a person fulfilling their responsibilities as a Game Moderator. All such polls must be clearly and directly advertised in both the region of The Great Experiment and its associated Discord server to all citizens.

  20. If a new Article is added to this Constitution, all other Articles and references to other Articles within must be renumbered accordingly.

  21. The Founder and President of TGE may change the flag or World Factbook Entry of TGE within reason at any time.

  22. The flag of TGE shall be restored within twenty-four hours of the passage of this Constitution to the following, and this Article shall be repealed twenty-four hours after its enactment:

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Zergadnkastan, Pekares, Scalizagasti, Uyanvzase, and 2 othersTuso, and Tusodia

Canadian zeeland wrote:While I do not want to disrupt the ongoing process of steel chairing, I... wrote a draft for a new constitution or something? idk
the Fifth Constitution of
The Great Experiment

Preamble
Whereas the Fourth Constitution of The Great Experiment enacted in November 2020 is exceedingly long, occasionally bureaucratic, and sometimes rather incomprehensible:

And whereas a simpler constitution is required for the relief of new and less-informed Great Experimenters:

Be the following Constitution enacted by the citizens of The Great Experiment.

    Section 1: Definitions
  1. In this Constitution, "assignable authorities" mean the Appearance, Border Control, Communications, Embassies, and Polls authorities; "TGE" means The Great Experiment; "RMB" means Regional Message Board; and "WA" means the World Assembly.

  2. A resident of TGE is any nation that resides in, and has not left, the region of The Great Experiment.

  3. A citizen of TGE is any resident thereof who has WA membership, or who does not have WA membership but has been granted citizenship as a result of a bill to that effect.

    Section 2: How a bill becomes a law

  4. Only a citizen of TGE may vote in any regional election or on any regional bill. Votes cast by non-citizens at the end of such a vote must not be counted.

  5. Any resident of TGE may propose a bill by posting a dispatch containing that bill's text on TGE's RMB, which must not be changed after its proposal except in line with Article 8. A bill shall only be voted on by citizens if it receives three likes from citizens within three days of its proposal and its dispatch has not been deleted; if multiple bills have received three likes, the bill that was proposed the earliest shall be voted or revoted on first.

  6. All bills eligible to be voted on under Article 5 must be put up to vote through a two-day poll on TGE's region page. Such a poll shall be given the title of the bill's dispatch and must contain a link to that dispatch, an option to vote for the bill, and an option to vote against the bill only.

  7. Bills to amend or replace this Constitution, grant residents citizenship, remove the President or any appointed regional officer from office, impose a password upon TGE, eject any resident of TGE other than the founder, or ban any resident of TGE other than the founder for a period of up to thirty days, require a two-thirds majority to pass. Bills to repeal this Constitution without a replacement require unanimity to pass. All other bills require a simple majority to pass.

  8. The Founder of TGE may veto a bill passed under Article 7 within two days of its passage by explicitly announcing on TGE's RMB that they have vetoed it. All such vetoes must include at least one explanation by the Founder of why they have vetoed the bill, as well as a copy of the vetoed proposal. Vetoed bills may be resubmitted, with alterations as necessary, at any time after they have been vetoed.

  9. All bills not vetoed in line with Article 8 are automatically enacted; such bills shall be stored in a dispatch which must be pinned to TGE's region page. No bill's dispatch may be deleted after its enactment.

    Section 3: Regional officials

  10. The nation of Holy Empire of Loaf is the Founder of TGE. The Founder shall have Executive authority and all assignable authorities, shall not be banned or ejected from TGE under any circumstances, and must further resolve any legislative disputes that may arise. If the Founder ceases to exist, their legal powers and responsibilities revert to the WA Delegate.

  11. The Founder of TGE may appoint any resident of TGE to a regional officer position not defined in this Constitution with at least one assignable authority for any duration. A resident so appointed shall lose their position if they cease to be a resident of TGE, resign, are dismissed, or are removed from office in line with Article 7.

  12. The WA Delegate of TGE is its President, and shall be elected once every six weeks starting from April 19th 2021 except as provided in Article 14. The WA Delegacy shall not have Executive authority nor any assignable authorities while Holy Empire of Loaf is in existence, but the elected President shall hold an appointed regional officer position entitled "President" with all assignable authorities. The WA Delegate shall vote on WA resolutions and approve proposals as they believe best serves the interests of TGE.

  13. At any point during a President's term, any citizen of TGE may announce their intention to stand at the next Presidential election on TGE's RMB, unless an intention to seek a third consecutive term as President can be sincerely inferred from such an announcement. Any citizen who makes such an announcement may retract it only by making a statement to that effect on TGE's RMB or ceasing to be a resident of TGE.

  14. If the President ceases to be a resident of TGE for more than five minutes, resigns, or is removed from office in line with Articles 7 or 16 before the end of their scheduled term, early elections for the Presidency shall be announced on TGE's RMB and scheduled for five days after that announcement; any citizen of TGE may announce their intention to stand at such early elections during those five days, and may retract it only under the circumstances detailed in Article 13.

  15. The procedures for how a Presidential election organised under Articles 12 or 14 is organised varies depending on how many citizens intend to stand, although the Founder shall break all ties in Presidential elections where this Article does not clarify how they are to be broken:

    1. if no citizens intend to stand, the incumbent shall remain (for an election organised under Article 12) or the Founder shall become (for an election organised under Article 14) President;

    2. if one citizen intends to stand, that citizen shall become President;

    3. if two citizens intend to stand for the Presidency, they shall run against each other in a two-day poll on TGE's region page, with the most voted-for citizen becoming President; and

    4. If three or more citizens intend to stand for the Presidency, they shall run amongst themselves in a two-day poll on TGE's region page, with the citizen obtaining a simple majority of votes becoming President; if no citizen obtains a simple majority, the two most voted-for citizens shall progress to a further one-day poll on TGE's region page to be organised as soon as possible, with the most voted-for citizen becoming President.

  16. A citizen of TGE without WA membership who is elected to the Presidency shall be automatically removed from office if they do not join the WA within one week of their election.

    Section 4: Final provisions

  17. This Constitution is TGE's highest legal document. No bill or action of a regional official may contradict it, and it may only be amended or repealed as outlined in Article 7.

  18. The Fourth Constitution of TGE and the Foreign Affairs Minister Act are null and void. This Article must not be read as requiring the Founder of TGE to dismiss the current Foreign Affairs Minister from their post.

  19. No poll organised under Articles 6 or 15 may be deleted under any circumstances by anybody other than a person fulfilling their responsibilities as a Game Moderator. All such polls must be clearly and directly advertised in both the region of The Great Experiment and its associated Discord server to all citizens.

  20. If a new Article is added to this Constitution, all other Articles and references to other Articles within must be renumbered accordingly.

  21. The Founder and President of TGE may change the flag or World Factbook Entry of TGE within reason at any time.

  22. The flag of TGE shall be restored within twenty-four hours of the passage of this Constitution to the following, and this Article shall be repealed twenty-four hours after its enactment:

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BY GOD, IT'S TINHAMPTON WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!

Uyanvzase and Tuso

Canadian zeeland wrote:While I do not want to disrupt the ongoing process of steel chairing, I... wrote a draft for a new constitution or something? idk
the Fifth Constitution of
The Great Experiment

Preamble
Whereas the Fourth Constitution of The Great Experiment enacted in November 2020 is exceedingly long, occasionally bureaucratic, and sometimes rather incomprehensible:

And whereas a simpler constitution is required for the relief of new and less-informed Great Experimenters:

Be the following Constitution enacted by the citizens of The Great Experiment.

    Section 1: Definitions
  1. In this Constitution, "assignable authorities" mean the Appearance, Border Control, Communications, Embassies, and Polls authorities; "TGE" means The Great Experiment; "RMB" means Regional Message Board; and "WA" means the World Assembly.

  2. A resident of TGE is any nation that resides in, and has not left, the region of The Great Experiment.

  3. A citizen of TGE is any resident thereof who has WA membership, or who does not have WA membership but has been granted citizenship as a result of a bill to that effect.

    Section 2: How a bill becomes a law

  4. Only a citizen of TGE may vote in any regional election or on any regional bill. Votes cast by non-citizens at the end of such a vote must not be counted.

  5. Any resident of TGE may propose a bill by posting a dispatch containing that bill's text on TGE's RMB, which must not be changed after its proposal except in line with Article 8. A bill shall only be voted on by citizens if it receives three likes from citizens within three days of its proposal and its dispatch has not been deleted; if multiple bills have received three likes, the bill that was proposed the earliest shall be voted or revoted on first.

  6. All bills eligible to be voted on under Article 5 must be put up to vote through a two-day poll on TGE's region page. Such a poll shall be given the title of the bill's dispatch and must contain a link to that dispatch, an option to vote for the bill, and an option to vote against the bill only.

  7. Bills to amend or replace this Constitution, grant residents citizenship, remove the President or any appointed regional officer from office, impose a password upon TGE, eject any resident of TGE other than the founder, or ban any resident of TGE other than the founder for a period of up to thirty days, require a two-thirds majority to pass. Bills to repeal this Constitution without a replacement require unanimity to pass. All other bills require a simple majority to pass.

  8. The Founder of TGE may veto a bill passed under Article 7 within two days of its passage by explicitly announcing on TGE's RMB that they have vetoed it. All such vetoes must include at least one explanation by the Founder of why they have vetoed the bill, as well as a copy of the vetoed proposal. Vetoed bills may be resubmitted, with alterations as necessary, at any time after they have been vetoed.

  9. All bills not vetoed in line with Article 8 are automatically enacted; such bills shall be stored in a dispatch which must be pinned to TGE's region page. No bill's dispatch may be deleted after its enactment.

    Section 3: Regional officials

  10. The nation of Holy Empire of Loaf is the Founder of TGE. The Founder shall have Executive authority and all assignable authorities, shall not be banned or ejected from TGE under any circumstances, and must further resolve any legislative disputes that may arise. If the Founder ceases to exist, their legal powers and responsibilities revert to the WA Delegate.

  11. The Founder of TGE may appoint any resident of TGE to a regional officer position not defined in this Constitution with at least one assignable authority for any duration. A resident so appointed shall lose their position if they cease to be a resident of TGE, resign, are dismissed, or are removed from office in line with Article 7.

  12. The WA Delegate of TGE is its President, and shall be elected once every six weeks starting from April 19th 2021 except as provided in Article 14. The WA Delegacy shall not have Executive authority nor any assignable authorities while Holy Empire of Loaf is in existence, but the elected President shall hold an appointed regional officer position entitled "President" with all assignable authorities. The WA Delegate shall vote on WA resolutions and approve proposals as they believe best serves the interests of TGE.

  13. At any point during a President's term, any citizen of TGE may announce their intention to stand at the next Presidential election on TGE's RMB, unless an intention to seek a third consecutive term as President can be sincerely inferred from such an announcement. Any citizen who makes such an announcement may retract it only by making a statement to that effect on TGE's RMB or ceasing to be a resident of TGE.

  14. If the President ceases to be a resident of TGE for more than five minutes, resigns, or is removed from office in line with Articles 7 or 16 before the end of their scheduled term, early elections for the Presidency shall be announced on TGE's RMB and scheduled for five days after that announcement; any citizen of TGE may announce their intention to stand at such early elections during those five days, and may retract it only under the circumstances detailed in Article 13.

  15. The procedures for how a Presidential election organised under Articles 12 or 14 is organised varies depending on how many citizens intend to stand, although the Founder shall break all ties in Presidential elections where this Article does not clarify how they are to be broken:

    1. if no citizens intend to stand, the incumbent shall remain (for an election organised under Article 12) or the Founder shall become (for an election organised under Article 14) President;

    2. if one citizen intends to stand, that citizen shall become President;

    3. if two citizens intend to stand for the Presidency, they shall run against each other in a two-day poll on TGE's region page, with the most voted-for citizen becoming President; and

    4. If three or more citizens intend to stand for the Presidency, they shall run amongst themselves in a two-day poll on TGE's region page, with the citizen obtaining a simple majority of votes becoming President; if no citizen obtains a simple majority, the two most voted-for citizens shall progress to a further one-day poll on TGE's region page to be organised as soon as possible, with the most voted-for citizen becoming President.

  16. A citizen of TGE without WA membership who is elected to the Presidency shall be automatically removed from office if they do not join the WA within one week of their election.

    Section 4: Final provisions

  17. This Constitution is TGE's highest legal document. No bill or action of a regional official may contradict it, and it may only be amended or repealed as outlined in Article 7.

  18. The Fourth Constitution of TGE and the Foreign Affairs Minister Act are null and void. This Article must not be read as requiring the Founder of TGE to dismiss the current Foreign Affairs Minister from their post.

  19. No poll organised under Articles 6 or 15 may be deleted under any circumstances by anybody other than a person fulfilling their responsibilities as a Game Moderator. All such polls must be clearly and directly advertised in both the region of The Great Experiment and its associated Discord server to all citizens.

  20. If a new Article is added to this Constitution, all other Articles and references to other Articles within must be renumbered accordingly.

  21. The Founder and President of TGE may change the flag or World Factbook Entry of TGE within reason at any time.

  22. The flag of TGE shall be restored within twenty-four hours of the passage of this Constitution to the following, and this Article shall be repealed twenty-four hours after its enactment:

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The constitution seems good. I haven't checked it out in too much detail, but I did read it through. If your post gets 4 likes I'll go through it in closer detail.
I of course love the idea of changing the flag, removing crimes, and otherwise making a shorter constitution. There are also some things I disagree with, like making the Presidency and WA Delegacy the "same" office(?), 6 week terms, and not defining "Game Moderator".

I guess you recognize that your post is not a proposal post, and that you will have to more explicitly say that you propose an amendment in order for it to reach referendum.

Tuso

Canadian zeeland

Pekares wrote:...not defining "Game Moderator".

The people with orange names who go around RMBs admonishing people for breaking site rules.

Pekares wrote:I guess you recognize that your post is not a proposal post...

Your guess is wrong. Article VIII.1 of the Constitution only requires that proposals for bills contain "a link to a dispatch containing the bill's text" rather than an explicit intention that the bill be forwarded to a vote among citizens upon reaching quorum.

Pekares and Tuso

Canadian zeeland wrote:The people with orange names who go around RMBs admonishing people for breaking site rules.

Your guess is wrong. Article VIII.1 of the Constitution only requires that proposals for bills contain "a link to a dispatch containing the bill's text" rather than an explicit intention that the bill be forwarded to a vote among citizens upon reaching quorum.

uh oh, unsought unforeseen situation!

Scalizagasti and Uyanvzase

Scalizagasti wrote:BY GOD, IT'S TINHAMPTON WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!

i will say only this, having the wa delegate as president causes a certain level of problematic situations. one of the main being that once a president has been elected, there's no way to force people to endorse them. very rarely (when this system was in place) was the official president actually the wa delegate.

Lacral wrote:i will say only this, having the wa delegate as president causes a certain level of problematic situations. one of the main being that once a president has been elected, there's no way to force people to endorse them. very rarely (when this system was in place) was the official president actually the wa delegate.

steel chair

Canadian zeeland wrote:The people with orange names who go around RMBs admonishing people for breaking site rules.

Your guess is wrong. Article VIII.1 of the Constitution only requires that proposals for bills contain "a link to a dispatch containing the bill's text" rather than an explicit intention that the bill be forwarded to a vote among citizens upon reaching quorum.

join the discord, we have a debate channel

Canadian zeeland

Lacral wrote:uh oh, unsought unforeseen situation!

steel chair

Lacral wrote:i will say only this, having the wa delegate as president causes a certain level of problematic situations. one of the main being that once a president has been elected, there's no way to force people to endorse them...

"Please endorse your new Delegate!" telegrams seem to work perfectly well for GCRs :P

Evansa wrote:join the discord, we have a debate channel

steel chair

Scalizagasti, Uyanvzase, and Tuso

Lacral wrote:steel chair

steel chair

Scalizagasti, Uyanvzase, and Tuso

Evansa wrote:steel chair

steel chair

Scalizagasti, Uyanvzase, and Tuso

That's a cool constitution, I reckon. People should like the post, so it'll be a thing people notice and we can debate it a bit. It'll be fun!

Kanlus and Tuso

i am now a WA author, poggers

A poll has been made for the ratification of the Fifth Constitution. Go Vote!!

Scalizagasti and Tuso

Whats with the steel chair thing

Tuso

hmm

Tuso

Remember, you can debate about all polls in our discord server as well!

Tuso

Trianglean wrote:Whats with the steel chair thing

wood chair

Uyanvzase and Tuso

Trianglean wrote:Whats with the steel chair thing

ellenburg was advertising wrestling and canadian zeeland came with a steel chair against the fourth constitution

Tuso

Ready for the next poll battle?

page=poll/p=172242

^ Pancakes Vs. Waffles Vs. French Toast Vs. Crepes!

Scalizagasti and Tuso

I'm requiring your endorsements

Scalizagasti, Uyanvzase, and Tuso

BrightonBurg wrote:Ready for the next poll battle?

page=poll/p=172242

^ Pancakes Vs. Waffles Vs. French Toast Vs. Crepes!

french toast is the only way

BrightonBurg and Tuso

any endorsers

Hi, I'm here for some roleplay. I've been inactive for a year now, I might try something new.

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