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Hraban wrote:

Yea, it would be better if incest was just straight up illegal. When it comes to royalty I would rather be a bastard working for the family than to be forced to marry a cousin or whatever.

Technically the (Catholic) Church would rise objections, for theological and practical reasons (the excess accumulation of power), so it was a matter of diplomatic strategy to try to get some Papal bull to legalize or permit the marriage.

In fact the marriage of the Catholic Monarchs (Isabelle I of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon) was possible because: a) they married in secret b) the forge a Papal bull to do it

Because they were defiance of the respective kings at the time of their kingdoms (with a subsequent civil war in Castile and the forgery was needed because they were second cousins).

Good way to end the Medieval Age, begin the Renaissance and the unification of the Spanish Kingdoms. It was less about love and more with shared political visions.

Hraban wrote:

Yea, it would be better if incest was just straight up illegal. When it comes to royalty I would rather be a bastard working for the family than to be forced to marry a cousin or whatever.

What if the cousin was really hot though? Jk :P

Delta Vega IV wrote:

Windsor, from what I recall. Not winsdor. And Mountbatten. It used to be battenberg but they anglicized it.

Why must i always mess it up?

The New California Republic wrote:

W-I-N-D-S-O-R

M-O-U-N-T-B-A-T-T-E-N

If you are going to get not one but both of the names wrong then it's probably best to just not say anything at all...

Sorry, not english, but czech
we dont really care about the right names, but the pronounciations
Fixed it anyways

Hraban wrote:

Changing your name doesn't erase your past and blood.

Blood thicker than everything, understood

Just got a Teslandia season 2 card from a pack! Just bragging :b

Hraban wrote:

Yea, it would be better if incest was just straight up illegal. When it comes to royalty I would rather be a bastard working for the family than to be forced to marry a cousin or whatever.

I know this is probably going to sound funny coming from a Alabamian. But what exactly is so bad about incest? I get that you dont want close relatives like siblings or parents sleeping together, but if two people love each other who cares if there cousins? I mean it's not like it hasn't been going on for thousands of years now. Heck I think I read somewhere that most marriages in India and the middle east are cousin marriages to this day. Everybody's family tree loops if you go back far enough.

Dernel wrote:

The habsburgs would like to say hi.

The hapsburgs were a historical oddity, a worse case scenario where one family refused to marry anyone outside there own bloodline for several generations until it devolved them into kind charles 2 of Spain. The vast majority of cousin marriages are not apart of some longstanding royal empire building scheme.

Hraban wrote:

Yea, it would be better if incest was just straight up illegal. When it comes to royalty I would rather be a bastard working for the family than to be forced to marry a cousin or whatever.

Eh, let people do whatever (or whoever) they want. We'll be able to remove genetic defects from people soon enough, so might as well let them.

BrightonBurg wrote:

Ready for the next poll battle?

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^ Pancakes Vs. Waffles Vs. French Toast Vs. Crepes!

Each of those is special in its own way and just as good as the others. How dare you put them against each other you villainous swine.

New vedan wrote:

I know this is probably going to sound funny coming from a Alabamian. But what exactly is so bad about incest? I get that you dont want close relatives like siblings or parents sleeping together, but if two people love each other who cares if there cousins? I mean it's not like it hasn't been going on for thousands of years now. Heck I think I read somewhere that most marriages in India and the middle east are cousin marriages to this day. Everybody's family tree loops if you go back far enough.

Why would that be funny coming from someone in Alabama?

Dernel wrote:

The habsburgs would like to say hi.

That wasn't looping, they were doing crochet.

New vedan wrote:

The hapsburgs were a historical oddity, a worse case scenario where one family refused to marry anyone outside there own bloodline for several generations until it devolved them into kind charles 2 of Spain. The vast majority of cousin marriages are not apart of some longstanding royal empire building scheme.

Yes, but I doubt that hemophilia would have survived if it had originated in peasants rather than royals.

Dernel wrote:

I gave a commonly known example, the fact of the matter is that incest often causes issues in genetic inheritance. When you have two distant people breeding, the chances of genetic overlap are incredibly low, and as such genetic defects are low. When incest is involved these issues are amplified in their chances of appearing. These defects only need to show in one person to then spawn an entire bloodline of people with these defects, and when you consider the fact that this is someones entire life, it shouldn't be taken lightly, and the chances of defects like this that are easily avoidable should be avoided.

Like the Amish and dwarfism.
(I think)

Treadwellia wrote:

Tubby scratches His head. Is this a compliment to His Rotundity or not?

It is toward you! And a flicking of the bird toward the fascists!

Capercom wrote:

It is toward you! And a flicking of the bird toward the fascists!

But how is he fascist?

Axixic wrote:

Yeah, just where did Cain’s wife come from anywise y’all?

And you might ask if Eve had a belly button. Of course not, but that fig leaf, well Eden was called Paradise for a reason😉

Dernel wrote:

I think with the early parts of the bible it simply says Adam and Eve were the first, but doesn't mention that they were the only ones, which I believe a better example in religion would be Noah.

Hmmm just what was it that Ham saw anyhoo